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    Hope your hubby gets his job Nar.
    Lots of interesting posts. My partner is not addicted to any drugs though and he hardly drinks AL at all. Food is essential and involves different learning patterns to change. And he has to want to do this.
    Sending lots of strength to you all and esp LB.
    It's meetings galore fir me today and I will crave peace and quiet tonight. At least I have that support at home for which I am very grateful.

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      Thanks TT, thank goodness for your support at home. That is great. I have good support too. I am lucky to have my loamer support?
      Narilly

      "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
      "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

      AF April 12, 2014

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        Narilly hope it went well today.
        TT food is a very tricky thing. You have to eat, and it's just hard to stop when you're full. I put some thought into this today. Well, lately because my hubby just seems to have issues with this too. Getting happiness from putting something into your mouth. Cigarettes, sugar, crack, alcohol.
        I guess part of what we learn here is putting aside the NEED. Learning to be content from within ourselves. Not sure if I'm expressing it right. It's something I'm currently turning over in my mind and trying to express so please bear with me.
        Jane my goal is to get him into counseling and yes NS I have given that as my ultimatum. You will go to counseling, someone you can talk to, feel comfortabe with. Period. End of discussion. If I have to make the appointments at first, so be it.
        If the first counselor doesn't work out, we will try someone else. This will be less expensive in the long run too. If meds are needed, then we will do that. We both want this. I know it's going to happen.
        Saturday is first day of vacation. 1 whole, glorious week at the beach, riding the bike, relaxing. I will make the first appt. During this time. And we'll be able to talk about exactly what he wants from this.
        If I am spotty checking in from Saturday on, don't be worried. Very poor data connection where I'm going. But i will get to the store and check in as I can.
        Glad to see you Steady. Any addiction is hard. It's the constant need for something. Hope your partner figures his out.
        No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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          Hi, All:

          NS - You really have a way with words. You wrote my thoughts - it must be so hard, LB, to contemplate that every day.

          And we KNOW we can't change someone else - we can model, talk, etc., but we can't cause the change. That can be so frustrating. Right now it is bumming me out because when I'm not around, DH makes the same bad choices for our sons as well. A "treat" is not a treat to a overweight teenager. Grrrrr.

          Nar - good luck to your husband.

          Ava - come give us a waffle every now and then.

          Happy SOBER Wednesday.

          xo
          Pav

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            Hi Gloamers,
            Have any of you heard of float therapy? Its so darn soothing floating in the pool in the summer. Was thinking of maybe checking out float therapy in the winter. Looks interesting!

            AF since January 7, 2014 *Never, never, never give up. ~ Winston Churchill*

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              Jane - there were versions of this in the 1970s, supposed to be linked to being in the womb etc. Also primal screaming. And water therapy used to be used in psychiatric asylums (sometimes as punishment as people were immersed for days!)
              Me, I just settle for a hot bath in winter

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                I hope you've gotten some good news, Nar!

                Jane, I did that once several years ago and loved it. I was a little claustrophobic at first but was ok once I verified I could get out if I wanted to. It was extremely relaxing - I drifted off for awhile. It is amazing for the only sound to be your own heartbeat (and to have it seem really loud). I have no idea if it has long-term benefit but it certainly is relaxing at the time.

                There is a lot of good information online about food addiction. I don't know of any whole food that is addictive - even sugar cane if you're chewing on the stalk. Raw nuts are easy to stop eating compared to roasted, salted ones; corn and potatoes are much different than their chips; etc. Like with AL, the drive for sugar/fat/salt is kept alive by consuming it - kind of a vicious cycle. These books on the subject are interesting:

                A lively argument from an award-winning journalist proving that the key to reversing America’s health crisis lies in the overlooked link between nu...

                That's tough that your husband isn't on the same page, Pav. My husband was/ still is! always the "fun parent", too.

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                  Thanks for the good wishes everyone. His interview went well, I have a feeling he will get the job but we might not know for a few weeks. Ugh..

                  Hey NS, those books are right up my alley. I will check them out.

                  Yes, floating sounds awesome. I love going to the pool and swimming lengths and then just floating in the deep pool it is so relaxing. There are always a bunch of Japanese and Italian oldies in the pool. They crack me up because they just say whatever they want like " did you gain weight?" or "you look good, did you lose weight? Your skin isn't sagging, how did you do that? Lol
                  I used to swim about three times a week and half that time I was hung over. It is so nice to go swimming now and not have a hangover. Life is good.

                  Talk soon.
                  Narilly

                  "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
                  "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

                  AF April 12, 2014

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                    Feeling good tonight. :happy2:
                    Jane I looked at that tank. I don't think I'm getting shut in there. Looks pretty confining.
                    Last edited by little beagle; August 20, 2015, 09:24 PM.
                    No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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                      Hi,

                      Yes - there was a horror movie about floating - Altered States. Creepy. But I always thought that floating would be great. I love swimming.

                      I wrote my waffle in the nest tonight. Hope all is well, Gloamers.

                      xo
                      Pav

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                        Hi Gloamers - not a lot to say here. I am up very early - being a chauffeur again and will try to do some writing today. Might get a walk in too. I am not interested in doing housework today!
                        Pav - I thought you said you ate your waffle in the nest.
                        Nar - good that your hubby might have that job. The economic situation is pretty grim here.
                        I had a dream about an old friend - who was an alcoholic (and in denial when I knew her) - and she said she had liver and bowel damage. A very intelligent but troubled woman. I have tried to contact her over the years but couldn't as she had moved to another city. I also confess that I put this on my back burner, because I didn't want meeting up with her, to threaten my quit. Now this dream has worried me - and I might make another effort to track her down. It was just a dream but its bugging me.

                        OK - hope, to see some faces here this weekend!

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                          I'm checking in from the beach. We have a lovely view of the ocean. And the breeze feels so nice off the water this evening. Ahhhh.
                          No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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                            Hi, Gloamers:

                            Lil B - the beach is my favorite spot. Enjoy - you deserve it.

                            I had a great dinner with new friends. I am tired and have a full weekend, but full with fun. I'll take some down time next weekend...

                            TT - Good luck finding your friend.

                            Night, all.
                            Pav

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                              So quiet here. You both sound good, Pav and LB. Enjoy the beach. My daughter wants to do a beach walk when we get some spare time. We have very wild and dramatic beaches in New Zealand - not the best for swimming but great for exploring and soaking up the energy from the waves.
                              I had a short walk yesterday with her and it was lovely. We walked through a forest around a pond. It was a lovely sunny spring day. Last night she went over some exam stuff with me - just saying her thoughts out loud. She has 6 hours of exams today and I have a mini-conference.

                              Jane - you usually post everyday. Are you OK?

                              I better have a shower and turn into a middle aged beauty. Haha - the pigs are flying through the window as I say that! You all have a good weekend as mine is over - and let us know how you are.

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                                Hi, TT and all:

                                This thread goes in fits and spurts. We're all getting along in sober days and I think checking many threads every day is hard sometimes.

                                Wow - 6 hours of exams? Yuck.

                                I had a great hike today - nice and sore this evening. I love a good bit of exercise to get me ready to start the week.

                                I hope all you gloamers are out enjoying your sober days.

                                xo
                                Pav

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