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    Oh my, I really had to laugh loudly at Stupid Face, NS.. that's exactly what it was. And I think he was trying to get to me.. which he did.
    I ended up reaching out to a couple of friends here and was glad I did, because they were able to help me put things quickly into perspective. Sometimes I hesitate to reach out.. I have complained so much the past 2 years about my situation..but this morning I didn't complain. And they (and you and J-vo ) helped me out a lot.
    Thank you for that, J-vo. I know you're working with kids that age and have your own so that means a lot to me. You are totally right with not carrying around the stuff I got away from. In hindsight I realised I'd fallen into the trap again... Normally I don't even indulge in these conversations any more.
    And it's true, NS, that for the past 6 months or so I've had more things to argue about with her and have been more critical. I guess the day I thought might never come is here.. and I need to adapt my mindset and parenting ways..

    Hi to everyone! and hope you're all enjoying Monday.

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      LC - I have an ex and two teens (both girls 14 and 17) - it is amazing how he can yank my chains with the girls.
      Yes, they are teens and are able to play us a bit, but he milks it for what it s worth - and usually under frame of trying to share, and help me!
      Consider the source! I avoid conversations with my ex, and keep doing the best I can do with my teens and hope that they are sensible enough to work things out. There will be times when they will hurt me and think the grass is greener on teh other side, but it will be rare - and when it has happened, they have come back being more appreciative...
      Hang in LC - if you are going to let anyone get under your skin, make sure it is someone who is worth it - and I tend to doubt it is your ex!!
      “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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        Hi gang,

        Haven't read back. Had a bad fight with hubs this weekend - his tone and attitude re training Red (& reacting to bad behaviour). He sounds like someone who's done hard time for all kinds of shit including (but not limited to) battery & assault & cruelty to animals. Thankfully he hasn't actually done anything abusive, but the tone and commentary alone makes me sick. The zinger I've been turning over in my hand is "I wouldn't have gone on a 2nd date with you if I had heard you behave this way" (note1 I think I'm picking 2nd vs 1st date to mirror the situation & shock of not realizing someone was an asshole to begin with (hence the 1st date taking place- badly phrased, but hopefully you guys get what I mean note 2 at the same time I'm anticipating potential return attacks-so not gonna go there)

        I will go postal on the mother fucker if he keeps it up. postal. ( small case = I am trying to keep a lid on this. In reality bold & supersized font w/ flames).

        I haven't done shit on the proverbial family to do list which includes coming up with dinner. AND I feel fat. God help him, and me and us. I supposed brushing & flossing my teeth might be a good way to wipe my brow & take a deep breath(so to speak). Fucker better not make me go cray cray.

        PS We got a nanny cam & its works great.




        Last edited by jane27; November 9, 2015, 04:22 PM.
        AF since January 7, 2014 *Never, never, never give up. ~ Winston Churchill*

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          NS hope you're feeling better!:hug:

          LC glad you're feeling better. :hug:

          SL you've got a lot on you're plate and you're doing a beautiful job. Girls are much more difficult and higher, way higher maintenance than boys.

          Jane, it does help when we vent. Today I was venting at the end of the day about lazy coworkers, and it drives me crazy when they don't do their jobs. How boring and annoying it must be to put up with bored teenagers that aren't getting a proper education. But at the end of the day, I go home with a clear conscience. So I bitched just like you did, got it off my chest, and felt much better?
          Last edited by j-vo; November 9, 2015, 05:32 PM.
          Sometimes what you're most afraid of doing is the very thing that will set you free.

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            I read this on Facebook today:

            Life is amazing. And then it's awful.
            And then it's amazing again. And in between the amazing and the awful its ordinary and mundane and routine. Breathe in the amazing, hold on through the awful, and relax and exhale during the ordinary. That's just living heartbreaking, soul-healing, amazing, awful, ordinary life. And it's breathtakingly beautiful.
            Sometimes what you're most afraid of doing is the very thing that will set you free.

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              Jvo, it really did help! Xxx
              AF since January 7, 2014 *Never, never, never give up. ~ Winston Churchill*

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                Kind of looks like my house everyday. And hubby and I have had a few words about it.
                No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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                  Sorry you had a bad fight Jane. I had to laugh a little at your description of your anger feelings... Only because I understand exactly that kinda upset all to well! Also, NS the stupid look! My husband says the same, that he doesn't understand .. And actually, I've started to believe he doesn't... I'm not sure why but Non the less... I'm actually on a good streak with hubs at the moment... (I don't want to jinx it by saying it too loud). The face book quote Jvo posted is really how I've been thinking lately about everything. Probably because I've been doing heaps of yoga.... Which is becoming my new addiction along with RPM. All good as I also feel fat and would like to loose some of this beer/wine/sugar/carb belly I've got. I am psyched to hit my 30 days this week. Feeling good. I had an HSG fertility treatment yesterday.. Pretty unpleasant, but the doctors and nurses were really nice. And everything looked healthy and working well. It's kinda a relief to learn ones body is functioning properly in any sort of test.. So I feel good about that even if this doesn't mean I'll have another baby. I'm nervous for the teen years, must be a whole other ball of wax.., stress etc. But it would be amazing too I reckon. Hope everyone is doing well! I still haven't had a chance to read back but thought I'd jump in again.
                  AF January 7, 2018

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                    Morning Gloamers!

                    God, Jane, that's so how I feel/felt so much of the time. I'm not as good at describing it as you are, though.. I think it's great to vent and sometimes exaggerating and using humour helps the most! I sure hope your husband pulls himself together! What a beautiful doggie you have.

                    SL, thank you so much for that.. I know you've had a lot of ups and downs with your ex and the girls. Is he the father of the girls? We've been a patchwork family for the past 9 years, so though my ex has had some influence over my kids, they also have their dad half time.. so thank goodness for that.

                    You were all right about choosing wisely the people I have important discussions with. Fortunately yesterday I had friends here and you lovelies to help me get back on track quickly. I should mention that I also started my period yesterday. Damn, it annoys me sometimes that that can make such a difference in my actions..

                    Choices, great that you're coming up on 30 days! and that yoga has become your new addiction. I'm trying to bring that back into my life..the meditation, too. Did do that this morning to start the day off on the right foot.

                    J-vo, thanks for that quote.. love it!
                    and Pav, I wanted to ask you where you were on vacation that your allergies were so much better?
                    LB:hug: I was often wondering about you, too.

                    A happy Tuesday to you all.. will check in again later.
                    Last edited by lifechange; November 10, 2015, 01:31 AM.

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                      Lifechange its such a nice thing to have you back posting. Gonna post more later, but just wanted to say that before I forget it like everything else (courtesy hormones).
                      AF since January 7, 2014 *Never, never, never give up. ~ Winston Churchill*

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                        Morning Gloamers,

                        LC my period still causes me lots of trouble! I have to be super careful with my mouth when it's that time. It's best for me not to speak to anyone for a few days. Maybe I should just do a few day get away each month. I don't think mr. JVo would object if I went away at that time.

                        Choices, 30 days coming up! We will celebrate for sure. :goodjob:

                        Not feeling much today. Like kind of blah. It's rainy and chilly, my son has been cranky and won't say why, and I'm just blah. It's just a part of life and never a reason to drink. Have a better than blah day!
                        Sometimes what you're most afraid of doing is the very thing that will set you free.

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                          Help me Jvo is this a new trend... Putting up tree before Thanksgiving?
                          My mither mentione it too and I was like 'hellooo, it isnt even week 2 of November yet.'
                          Maybe been out of the good ole US of A too long?
                          Originally posted by j-vo View Post
                          Good day here. Went to help mother in law trim her tree. It's early but she wanted help and I was happy to lend her a hand. Got some papers checked, did laundry and organized a bit. What a Sunday should be! Now we're sitting on sofa, mr, j-vo watching football and I'm going to watch house of cards. Because I'm not so tired from being hungover and can sit and enjoy relaxing. For that, I'm grateful.:love:
                          (AF since 17 May 2014) 2 years 5 months sober

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                            Jane! Oh dear oh dear.. What a mess.
                            I am speechless, vent away.
                            Whatever you need to do, you certainly dont need your hd to behave like a moron right now. Perhaps he could save it all up and then take a little holiday! Like to Peru or someplace nice and far off....
                            (AF since 17 May 2014) 2 years 5 months sober

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                              Jane :hug:
                              LC - yes, he is father of the girls (in name only - he sees them very rarely, but can still yank my chain:cuss

                              I am having to accept my days are too long and busy in the week to check in a lot - so if I can allow one quick, stay on track, accountability check in during the week, and a bit more of a presence during the weekend - and be ok with that!
                              In the past I have felt guilty for not being more of a contributor, or being able to read it all and comment on busy days - but I have to let that go and just do what I can without feeling that I need to do more (not only in MWO but other places too!)

                              So checking in and will see you later...
                              “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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                                I have felt the same way SL about guilt in not being able to keep up or post enough when I'm busy.. Same in my personal life too. But I'm going to do it differently this time too. I'm just going to try and post everyday somewhere even if I can only do the 24 hour thread or the gratitude thread. Just so I don't stray to far away from support in staying sober. I love the new like/thanks feature! Now I can at least let someone know I've read what they wrote and am thinking about what they say... Even if I don't have time to reply..
                                AF January 7, 2018

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