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**treetops** · February 23, 2014, 02:59 AM

SUN 23rd Feb

Well the lengths Mick will go to to beat me in starting the thread. Getting up at 2.30am! Hope you are OK - such early rising is not usually a good sign.
I had the opposite problem- been sleeping more than usual this weekend. I think its a catch-up from having limited sleep the past few weeks - also I feel like I may be coming down with a virus and sore throat. Blame it on the teenagers - there are lurgies going around that lot and so I probably caught it off my daughter.
Good to see you back Pauly. You sound very positive - so here's to your final quit. Its wonderful when you do it - sort of like crossing a thresh-hold after lots of attempts. Like learning to drive - some people get their licence in one go - others know how to drive, know the rules, practice lots - but don't get through the test. Then one day they do - because they know they must have their licence so they keep on trying.

Now that was a peculiar analogy! :H:H We know I am like that.

After that I am fading away so will sign off any maybe rejoin the thread tomorrow. You all have a lovely Sunday.

**TheSunFlower** · February 23, 2014, 03:19 AM

SUN 23rd Feb

I have to chime in regarding the "advertising" on this site. When RJ's post came out, I noticed that the advertising for River Pharmacy had disappeared. That company was most likely a huge source of the funding for this site.

If we object to "advertising", then it will need to become a subscription based site. Which means you will have to give your real name, address and cc number. Many are unlikely to do that, thus RJ would be forced to shut down the site.

For those who use Facebook, who do you think pays for you to have that free service? The advertisers.

Advertising is the number one way we learn about new products and services that may be of value to us. We can't "google" it, if we don't know it exists. Our brains are trained to key in on ads that may be of value to us and basically ignore the ones that don't. We can be sensitive to AL ads, because we had an issue with AL. But, with more distance from AL...those ads don't really mess with us that much. I never really noticed the liquor ads, just the beer ones

If RJ gets a huge objection to advertising there can be consquences that we don't want. Advertising serves a purpose. It will fund the site. I have no objection to seeing ads that may be of use to myself or others.

I understand advertising. I never really understood why it got such a bad rap. Companies use it to get their message out to you. When businesses thrive jobs are created. Advertisng funds your FB account, your local radio stations and major TV networks.

There are some underhanded messages that companies/politicians use to get your attention.....but, I think we are all smart enought to see through that. And....when it comes to youth of America....most shows directed at them have very specific guidelines as to what can be advertised to them.

I would rethink the stance on advertising on this site. Advertising is going to fund the site and keep your identity truly anonymous.

**TheSunFlower** · February 23, 2014, 04:21 AM

SUN 23rd Feb

Pauly....I think you may be over analyzing the plan. The only thing you have to do is not drink. This is "My Way Out" and suggestions in the tool box are good and ultimately you have to choose the ones that work for you.

I don't advocate smoking. I certainly think it is great that some give up both booze and smoking at the same time. I still smoke and don't really have an intention of quitting until I hit my official one year mark. I can say that over the past several months I don't smoke nearly as much, eat as much sugar or consume as much diet coke as I did in the beginning.

Honestly, on this last quit...it was the first time I had no plan. None at all....just to not drink. I used to make all sorts of plans and strategies to quit. It was all too much. When all along it really was quite simple (not easy)....don't drink. At three months when I felt myself slipping....I went to a recovery group. When I get into funks like I did this week, I go back to the recovery group.

I think when I put too much expectation on myself....no smoking, working out, reading War and Peace....when I would lapse at one it would create a domino effect. When all I had was one domino to tackle it was much easier.

Focusing on the one that was screwing up my life the most worked.

**Lavande** · February 23, 2014, 07:48 AM

SUN 23rd Feb

Good morning Abbers,

Those sleepless nights are long ones Mick

Grateful I don't have them too often.
A trip to the dollar store is fun once in a while! That's where I load up on things like party plates & napkins, that sort of thing!
Your trip plans sound very exotic to me. Be sure you get some awesome pics for us

TT, hope you are getting some sleep & fighting off the viruses!!!!

SF, I didn't object to the advertising on the survey for the very reasons you mentioned. I've learned to ignore the advertisers on Facebook & everywhere else I trek

I quit smoking 6 weeks or so after I stopped drinking - it was really grossing me out at that point! I wanted to be free of both evils so I could spend all the time I wanted around the grandkids. They were my motivation, they keep me on my toes!

pauly, good to see you! I hope you stick around & make some real progress

My copy of War and Peace is still on the shelf by the way......it can stay there too!!!!!

Have a great AF Sunday everyone!

Lav

**little beagle** · February 23, 2014, 09:29 AM

SUN 23rd Feb

Mick have a great trip.

**scottish lass** · February 23, 2014, 02:59 PM

SUN 23rd Feb

Hi, and happy Sunday - I love some of the comments here today - SF, that could be common sense, that I just love - just get rid of the one problem - let's do it Pauly!!!
Planted parsley, mints and nastursiums today - in pots as the garden needs so much work, an it is not "my" home for another year or so, so relucant to spend the money - but have the planting bug now:H
My girls remain buggy too TT - I am really hoping that I don't get it - hope you can ward anything lurking around away!

**paulywogg** · February 23, 2014, 04:34 PM

SUN 23rd Feb

Mae everybody,SF,two good points you made first about the advertising situation,if it keeps mwo afloat,so be it,also yes i know i do overthink quits,i start off so gung ho to change i get overwhelmed,thats why im just trying to take each day as it comes,and just try to make small positive changes in my life just in general,hubs bought me a nice bouganvillea yesterday,hopefully this one doesn't die,and im with you Lav,smoking is starting to gross me out too,hello to everybody,have a good rest of the day

**Lavande** · February 23, 2014, 04:47 PM

SUN 23rd Feb

pauly - I quit successfully with QuitNet!
They convinced me to use some form of NR to better my chances at quitting - they were right

Quit Smoking All Together: the Web's Largest Quit Smoking Community

**TheSunFlower** · February 23, 2014, 11:21 PM

SUN 23rd Feb

I never even had a copy of War and Peace

I have been reading some on hypnosis. I think the reason it never worked for me is that when I used it I really didn't want to quit and I wasn't really sold on the subliminal stuff. I know that Lav has said it helped her and I think it was because her mindset was in a better state than mine. Meaning she actually really did want to quit when she used them.

I bring it up because Joseph Clough has some good stuff. Lots of free podcasts and Youtube videos on freeing yourself of issues that can be holding you back. Some are videos and some are hypnosis. He sends out a weekly free video that I like if you sign up for his e-mail list. If you like his stuff he has some several hypnosis (quitting al, quitting smoking, losing weight, phobias, etc) that are inexpensive. I just downloaded a couple and I like them. Mentioning it because each is $9 mp3....and could be helpful if one is wanting to try that route without making a huge investment.

Went to another great songwriter performance tonight. I enjoy it so much more than going to some big concert. The talent here is simply amazing.

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