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    #76
    Sweet September

    Hello All,

    Lav and Fly, interesting perspectives on sons vs. daughters. You've probably heard the old saying, "A son is a son 'til he takes a wife. A daughter's a daughter all her life!" I'm sure there are variations on it, but it is a general truism. My son would have spun away had he married a more suitable woman and things had gone more smoothly for him I think. But in our case, he has needed so much help with the children that it has kept us closer. However, as he has become stronger these last few months, he has become more independent and is in contact less. Which is why I am feeling the empty-nest feelings I guess. I'm happy that he is growing stronger tho, so I'll learn to adjust!

    Star, I found your comments about your son interesting. I think it is a tendency of males to be that way to some extent but he seems perhaps a little further along on the continuum! My son is pretty needy too but he sometimes stops and asks me how I am doing or feeling and he asks it so sincerely it takes me aback. He isn't just asking perfunctorally. (Well, often it is perfunctory, but just once in awhile there is that sincere question and I know he really cares.) He often expresses gratitude to me and his Dad for being there for him. I know he badly wants our relationship to get more in balance along those lines so that he isn't always needing our help.

    Papmom, you must be the only one on the thread who has the weight going in the right direction! Keep it up, girl!

    I spent a great deal of time outside yesterday too! It was a perfect Fall day and my daughter, Mr. D and I took a long walk at a nature preserve nearby. Daughter is in fantastic shape. She joined a gym and goes there as often as her schedule allows. Mr. D and I couldn't really cover the ground she wanted to cover so we split up for a little while so she could go the the spots she wanted to visit. I am sure this weekend has been a nostalgic one for her. The wedding took her back to her home town (different from where we live now) and old friends and haunts. She wanted to visit spots in this nature preserve that she had spent time at with her high school buddies. We had a great visit yesterday, talking and laughing. It felt wonderful! More to come today!

    Still thinking about Mr. G's thread. It could morph into a Tool Box thread for the 30+. I hope it does. Mr. G has always been an interesting presence here and one of the best reasons is his honesty. A close second is his tenacity. And then, there's just the plain fact that he's an all-around good guy!

    Out of time now. Have a lovely AF Sunday. Seek your higher power today, and feel grateful to be AF!
    Dill

    Dont forget, you can: start late, start over, be unsure, try and fail AND STILL SUCCEED!

    If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find an excuse.

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      #77
      Sweet September

      Good Sunday morning friends!

      A bit cloudy here this morning but it's going to clear up on this last day of summer

      Dill, great that you are enjoying a visit with your daughter!
      My relationship with mine is vital to my well being. All of the other women in my life are long gone & women need to be around other women
      Your son is growing stronger & more independent thanks in large part to the good care you provided! I have a feeling that he will always remember that!

      Tomorrow I will see the podiatrist & hope he gives me the 'all clear' on my foot. I'm getting around just fine but have been a bit reluctant to push too hard fearing re-injury. I just want to lose a few pounds like Papmom & can't do it with diet alone :H

      Greetings to Papmom, Star, Fly, Cyn - hope you all have a fantastic AF Sunday.
      I'll be watching my grandsons all afternoon, oh boy!!!!

      Lav
      AF since 03/26/09
      NF since 05/19/09
      Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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        #78
        Sweet September

        I actually did a little work out today! Woo Hoo! I'll probably be hobbling tomorrow, but I need to move. Carry on!

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          #79
          Sweet September

          Happy Sunday eve, all! Is it really the autumnal equinox tonight/tomorrow? Wow, today was very strange - sort of warm and humid, a real last day of summer. But had been predicted to be sunny and instead it was a little glowery, oh well. I haven't been able to get going again on our grounds - I still need to do major battle with the bittersweet, although a week ago I did manage a few hours on garlic-mustard, with more to be done. At least I felt as if I had made a dent. I hope someday to be doing something productive outside that I can see the results of, rather than reminding myself of what terrible invasive USED to be there, uuugh.

          I met HB at the train yesterday, and we ended up having a good 24 hours together. At first it's always a little bumpy - he wanted to drive and I got huffy. How silly to get caught up in these micro-battles, for goodness sakes! This morning he showed me a very sweet video about a young couple (very outdoors-types) getting engaged in Yosemite. In speaking about their relationship they used a lot of analogies to nature, yoga, etc, and there's some amazing footage of the two of them supporting each other in yoga poses, whew! One great quote: "You know why it's so great to be flexibile?... You never get 'bent out of shape'." Loved that. Note to self!

          Wishing all a great beginning of autumn, and happy AF days in abundance --
          to the light

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            #80
            Sweet September

            Good morning...

            Dill, sounds like a wonderful time with your daughter. Know you enjoyed your weekend. I feel badly about my comments about my son, but right now, that is where we are at. I carried the emotional load for him for years, and I am done as much as I can be. Being around an unhappy person is really hard, and he is always unhappy, or most of the time. For years I blamed myself, tried to make him happy. It did not work, so I give up. We all have to create our own lives and happiness. I think a large part of this AF journey is learning to create a good place to be with ourselves. Not numbing ourselves, making ourselves sick or buzzed. Just being OK where we are at right now. Enjoying simple things. Learning about or reengaging with spirituality, relationships, nature, hobbies, interests, exercise. Accepting. It is ongoing.

            Lav, hope your foot is better, too. I would be careful for a while. I have hurt my foot in the past and baby it even now.

            Fly, exercise feel great, it is just getting out and doing something. To me, the simpler, the better.

            Cyn, why do we bicker with our loved ones over little things? I do that too, then feel badly later. Hearing about our yardwork, I am happy I don't have that to concern me this fall. Maybe next year. So, what are your big projects in the next few weeks? Any good recipes you'd like to share. Also, are you reading anything interesting? I took out a few books, but none of them are catching my interest. Would love some suggestions.

            Monday, the start of the work week. Let's make it meaningful. Fall has officially started. Nice and cool here. Love it.
            Formerly known as redhibiscus

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              #81
              Sweet September

              Good Monday morning friends,

              My favorite season starts today - yay

              Cyn, I am becoming more & more content with just leaving most things around here go back to nature :H
              I fear exposure to poison ivy so I have quit attacking heavily weeded areas. I choose to just let it go :H
              I think as humans we are all entitled to a small hissy fit now & then. Don't worry yourself!

              Star, I completely understand your comments about the pain of living with a chronically unhappy human being. Boy - do I ever
              I have my deflector shields up & whenever YB starts getting negative it just bounces right back to him. I'm not accepting any of that anymore
              I hope you have a good day!

              My grandson arrives at 9 so I'd better get myself ready!
              Wishing everyone a great AF Monday.

              Lav
              AF since 03/26/09
              NF since 05/19/09
              Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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                #82
                Sweet September

                Good morning Abfabs Cyn, Dill, Lav, Pap,Star, Fly (we havent met). And any im not mentioning .... Last time i checked in it was Christmas 2013. Ive been Acohol free totally since Feb 2011. Im mostly retired now. I hope everyone is fine. I left this site in order to dodge a stalker, but i do feel as though i should come back once in a while to thank you for your support and friendship. Im mostly well, bit of aging, im 60 now, but i know im better than i could have been for sure. So keep on with the simpler equations of life, i know im doin the math. Love to all. Kaz
                Kaslo

                Stopped the madness: February 14, 2011
                Status: Happy:h

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                  #83
                  Sweet September

                  Kaslo! We have indeed met. In fact, I was just reading some old PMs that we exchanged about 2 years ago! LOL! I was just thinking about some of the folks that used to post here; ShueAddict, BlondeAFambition, TurnAgain, you... Turnagain and you both showed up within 2 days of me reminiscing! Now if Shue and Blondie come back I'll start to think I've got some special powers! I remember you talking about the village of Kaslo and looking at your beautiful photographs. It's great to see you here.

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                    #84
                    Sweet September

                    Greetings All,

                    I'm sitting here in my living room enjoying the sound of silence! What a hectic 3 days! Granddaughter spent the night last night and has just been sent back home. I have my feet up and am looking around at the mess, but have no intention of lifting a finger for the rest of the day!

                    Hi Kaslo! It's great to see you! I hope now that time has passed that you'll be able to post in peace. We missed you when you left.

                    Fly, I often think about the people we have posted with that have left. I wish they would stop in sometime but I understand their choice. They apparently no longer need the anchor and that is wonderful! I suppose we each have our own reasons for continuing posting and one day each of us will leave. But for now I am really happy to be here still!

                    Lav, how did the trip to the podiatrist go? And yest, daughters are very special. I realize each time I see my daughter just what a loss it is to me that she lives so far away. I did the same thing when I was young tho: I moved far away from home so I could assert my independence. Was on the verge of moving back home when I met the man I soon married and settled down with him in his home town. It wasn't until much later in my life that I realized the things I lost in doing that and that it was really a trade-off, not a win.

                    Cyn, the quintessential question: "why do we bicker with our loved ones over little things?" Hmmm. I bet we all have some ideas on that, but I think my first reaction is, 'because we can'! LOL! It's relatively safe. But I know your question was rhetorical.

                    Star, I hope it was not something in my response to you that made you feel badly! That is the last thing I would ever want to do. All relationships are complex and have their ebbs and flos. I have been more apt to have ebbs in my relationship with my daughter over the years than with my son. She can be a bit of a "my way or the highway" person for one thing. She has softened over the years tho with more life experiences. Cyn recently asked me if I get JOT emails and I forgot to answer that I do indeed. Wasn't there one recently about letting another person's pain not become our own? Yes, it was called, "Being at Peace with the Pain of Others". Did you see that one? I read it and found it very, very helpful. I think you can find it if you click on this link:

                    http://www.rickhanson.net/category/just-one-thing/

                    No book recommendations currently, sad to say.

                    I hope everyone has a pleasant AF Monday evening.
                    Dill

                    Dont forget, you can: start late, start over, be unsure, try and fail AND STILL SUCCEED!

                    If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find an excuse.

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                      #85
                      Sweet September

                      The Podiatrist says I'm cured - yay :H
                      He said I can always put the boot back on for a few days to rest my foot if I need to.... I said SURE :H
                      The boot is on the way to the storage area in the back of the basement

                      Kaslo, glad to see you pop back in here even though I see you everyday on FB
                      I noticed a big increase in aches & pains too after I turned 60 last December. The broken foot this summer was a dog caused accident - honestly!!
                      Stick around - this newer format is going to make stalking more difficult, I hope!

                      Dill, the mess will wait ~ it always does!
                      Spending time with the kids & grandkids is much more important & rewarding too. Glad you had a great visit!

                      Fly, it's heading down to 42 degrees tonight. How cool is that??

                      Have a great night everyone!
                      AF since 03/26/09
                      NF since 05/19/09
                      Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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                        #86
                        Sweet September

                        Good morning...

                        Kaslo, what a wonderful surprise to hear from you. I loved your posts and pictures. Hope you feel comfortable stopping back from time to time. Glad to hear your AF journey has continued as you are so lucky to be mostly retired. Great news.

                        Lav, thanks for your feedback on living with a consistently negative person. I don't know what is harder, to have that person be your husband or son. Either way, it is hard to constantly deflect their negative comments, energy, and to not be part of their pity parties. There is a certain amount of guilt for me, as I want to have relationship, but don't want to have to put up with the same old sad pitiful script. Anyway, hope you are doing well protecting yourself. I too thought of deflecting that energy, so that is interesting to me too.

                        Dill, you are fine, it is just something that I have to deal with that is ongoing. I feel good that it was brought up, because it could be discussed and lo and behold, Lav has to deal with it too. I am reading a good historical book about Carolyn Norton, who lived in the early 1800s in England, married a jerk, and suffered her entire life as women did not exist under English law. She wrote and laws were finally changed, but the English, despite having queens, really treated their women horribly. You married the wrong person, your life was miserable. Very interesting.

                        OK, I need to get ready for work. Another computer training for me today. Love to learn new things.
                        Formerly known as redhibiscus

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                          #87
                          Sweet September

                          Good morning friends,

                          Sunny & a chilly 41 degrees, nice

                          Star, I have developed a silent mantra that kicks in every time YB starts his negativity. It just starts up automatically & really works well at deflecting his depressing comments. IT'S HIS PROBLEM, NOT MINE!
                          His negativity is not directed at me. It's directed at everything & everyone else on the planet. It just proves to me that he still has not taken full ownership of his problems & prefers to place blame elsewhere - anywhere It's basically childish behavior in my book. I am sure that his emotional development was halted at an early age - his parents turned out to be disasters. YB hid all that pretty well when we met so I just got sucked in. I am not going there again, this girl has learned her lesson the hard way! We owe it to ourselves to avoid the negativity out there in the world so that we can live our best lives in peace
                          Enjoy your training day! Learning something new is a good thing!

                          I have a whole day of work waiting for me so I'll just get started.
                          Greetings to Dill, Papmom, Cyn & Fly!
                          Have a great AF Tuesday everyone!

                          Lav
                          AF since 03/26/09
                          NF since 05/19/09
                          Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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                            #88
                            Sweet September

                            I love fall! Love these temperatures. Ahhh. In a couple weeks DH and I are going away to the mountains for a week. I can't wait to see the leaves changing and to spend some time hiking. :heart: Today is my neurology appointment! It may sound weird, but I can't wait. Getting needles injected into your head and neck and shoulders might not sound so great, but I know that I'll get huge pain relief from it in a couple weeks and will be pain free and mobile once again.

                            Dill, what an interesting article! I could definitely see my husband in that writing, giving his "dadish" advice. :H I frequently tell him, "I'm not looking for advice, I'm just venting."

                            Lav, are you sure you don't want to wear your boot for a couple more weeks? :H I admire your ability to let the negativity roll off your back. It would be easy to get mired into it or to get angry and snap back, but I think either reaction would just validate the negative person's beliefs. It looks like a beautiful day outside. I hope you enjoy it.

                            Star, interesting to hear about Carolyn Norton. I guess we have come a long way in some things, but at other times I still feel like we have a ways to go. It's great that you like your new job and I agree that it's fun to learn new things.

                            Hello Papmom and Cyn and Kaslo. Where is Rusty? I haven't seen her in a while.

                            Have a great day all!

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                              #89
                              Sweet September

                              Good morning...

                              I love this crisp fall weather too, just can't get enough of it

                              Lav, love the self-talk, I will work on it. It is a continuous process for me.

                              Flyaway, how nice to have a vacation to look forward to. Rusty got angry about something, and left. I am not sure what upset her. It was weird. I miss her too and wish she would come back.

                              Hello to Dill, Cyn, Pap. Have a good hump day.
                              Formerly known as redhibiscus

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                                #90
                                Sweet September

                                Good morning friends & Happy hump day

                                Cloudy & awaiting a couple inches of rain ~ swell.

                                Fly, I've been full circle learning to dodge & outrun the negativity thing in my house, believe me. I am determined not to allow myself fall victim to that BS again
                                I don't have any plans to use the boot in the future although it could, just possibly become a useful weapon in self-defense :H

                                Star, this is absolutely my favorite time of the year even if it does kill my allergies! I hope you have a great day!

                                Greetings to Dill, Cyn & the busy Papmom!
                                I have a full workday ahead but first a trip to Curves is on order!

                                Have a great AF day everyone!

                                Lav
                                AF since 03/26/09
                                NF since 05/19/09
                                Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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