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    Sunday 21 AF December

    MAE everyone. Might as well start the Sunday thread because it is Sunday. I plan on trying to catch up with some writing today – partly because I am over Christmas already! And also because this is a big writing and research project that I am working on, plus its something that usually gives me huge satisfaction. :thumbsup:

    Yes, starting to dread Christmas Day. Touched base with my sister and Madame Toxic will be there (this is not one of my kin). :egad:
    “I shall be calm, forgiving and ignore things” – my mantra No 1.
    We all have had this I guess – and we probably have been the family nuisance ourselves esp when we were drunk.
    SL – I so relate to your story about not lasting the day out – that was my experience. Mind you, I still think Xmas day is way too drawn out in my extended family. I am not a fan of the Long Lunch esp when its starts at 2pm.
    “Its just one day a year” – Mantra No.2.

    Well Lav I am glad you rescued some joy from what YB’s morbid plans on your birthday.:happy2: I too am battling with Mr Depression this weekend. My partner G. is in one of his cycles – always does this when his holidays start. It was so predictable. Its not just that he is down – its that he gets nasty and says cruel things to me as well. And very lazy. I try to avoid him, I try to be kind, I try to ignore – but its hard in a smallish house and no matter how upbeat I am – it wears me out and I end up retiring to my room. Thank goodness I have my writing. But I don’t need his moods at this time of the year. Plus we have an away holiday together. Hopefully the newness of everything once we are on the road will lift his depression. But you never know.
    I Used to use AL to deal with his moods – but that's off the agenda. A wee bit of AL (he doesn't usually drink much) helps his moods but I don't want to enable him or help him down the road to alcoholism.

    Sorry for the rant but I have to get it out and that's one of the things about our merry little band on MWO.:thumbsup:

    At least my tree was up weeks ago- you Santa slaggards!

    Sam – you enjoy your time away from the markets and your low-key Christmas. Where are your family these days?
    Lav – I managed to get my decorations trimmed down to one small box. Just kept the special ones.
    Daughter made caramel square last night – can I put that on my gratitude list instead of my hips?
    Det- hope you are well/
    Pauly – time to check in.
    Mick – have a good one this Sunday on your jaunts.
    PPQP - see you enjoy playing bridge. No, I don’t play.

    OK – time to get some writing done before my darling partner fills his the house with his special vibes. The joys of intimacy!!! He doesn’t know it but I am scheming to have him start on redecorating the laundry (Mick – can you help?). Just have to work out the colours.

    Be sane all, in this festive rush and recite my mantras – I am not charging reproduction rights! Trying to keep the humour there.

    #2
    TT - I was going to come and complain that it can't be Sunday yet - back off! But instead I won't (except I just did:congratulatory.
    I am sorry that things are pulling at you and your partner is a downer - that is just no help at all. I know I discuss about being lonely, and I do miss the good things that having people around brings, but this is a great reminder of the other side. There is just myself and my two girls, and we can do just fine - no pleasing others or putting up with others moods - in some ways that makes me lucky. Dealing with someone who is depressed is one thing, but someone being nasty - he needs a big kick if he is nasty to our TT, and I bet there are a few willing helpers here (we can get some of PPQ's positive P's as mandatory medicine for him)...I do hope he and the extended family does not bring you down too much - I will chose to be content with my threesome and not wish for different:hug::hug:
    “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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      #3
      SL - the thing is that he doesn't seem to realize the effect he has on his nearest and dearest. He has no friends so we cop it all at home. He hardly ever speaks to his own birth family. Also he has been on ADs for years - and while this might make him functional most of the time and prevent him from hurting himself - he needs to do something else. I have tried and I love him. The nastiness is verbal not physical.
      Today he is still asleep (12 hours sleeP). I have also asked him to get checked for sleep apnea and his dr dismissed this. But thats was years ago and I want him to check out newer solutions in this area,

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        #4
        TT - verbal can be just as painful. I am so sorry. Lack of sleep (true sleep) can be so dangerous. It does seem as if you need some different answers. And loving him whilst being unhappy is a very tough place to live. Being in a relationship like this is wearing - I do know that. Does his Dr prescribe the AD's? Is it time for a higher level of care? One that looks into the cause and not just treating symptoms. My heart hurts for you....
        “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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          #5
          yes his Dr prescribes the ADs - and the statins (that probably don't help either). G. is utterly convinced that the depression is all biochemical and that all he can do is take his drugs. That depression is a 'disease'. Since the drugs have made him feel better (compared to when he didn't take them years ago) he sees this as proof. But he still gets depression and although there is probably a biochemical element there are also behavioral issues he could address - as well as the deep seated emotional ones. He used to blame a lot of depression on his father's alcoholism but I dont think its just that. Then he came to blame me for his moods (i.e. when I was drinking and he saw me as continuation of his Dad- although I am a really different person one hopes). But his moods haven't stopped since I quit. I don't mind putting this on the forum as these are AL related matters. G. won't go to therapy, or do any of the self help stuff. He just thinks all you do is take the pill. Thats his attitude to a lot of medical matters. Put your faith in the GP and take what they prescribe. Never been my attitude and we clash over this one - although funnily enough he was much more cautious when it came to our daughter takings meds (that were not ADs as she does not seem to have depression). And he would happily have me in therapy until the cows come home.
          Last edited by treetops; December 20, 2014, 04:30 PM.

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            #6
            TT - this sounds really tough. I am always sorry when I hear how much trust is put in the medical profession - sometimes it is warranted and sometimes not, Statins have a really good place in modern medicine - but they can be really nasty (I recall some on MWO having big struggles with statins). I hope that you find the joy in different places that gives you the strength to cope with this...would happily meet you for a coffee if we were a wee bit closer...
            “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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              #7
              I don't usually look at the next day's thread but glad I did TT.

              I'm sitting here nodding my head in agreement because your story sounds very similar to mine.
              It all boils down to the fact that these guys are not willing to take responsibility for their own thoughts, moods & subsequent behavior. Why? What the hell are they afraid of anyway??
              Remember, YB ran out of here more than a year after I had quit drinking at him!!! I managed to work up the courage to fix my problems & he just got worse. After he left he told me over the phone that he was tired of me 'controlling his thinking' & knowing what he was going to say before he said it HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!! Paranoid or what?
              He's been put on meds several times over the years but he always finds some reason to stop them. I even had him seeing a psychiatrist for a year but he quit that too although I think it was starting to help him. I just decided that I was going to be happy despite him & he can do whatever the hell he wants to do, LOL.

              Keep yourself safe & happy not just for you but your daughter as well :hug:
              Some people just don't want to be happy - their choice!
              AF since 03/26/09
              NF since 05/19/09
              Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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                #8
                And he came back Lav - cannot have been that bad?? Maybe not you methinks....
                “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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                  #9
                  Good morning Abbers,

                  Now that it actually is Sunday morning

                  SL, YB can do whatever the hell he wants to do ~ but my shields are up & re-enforced! He will not drag me into his chronic despair again, it almost killed me a few times over the years.
                  Just yesterday we were in the car together & out of no where he says 'let's go buy a pack of smokes & disappear into the woods for an hour'. WTF? REALLY? He doesn't give a damn about what I've been thru, he always thinks of himself first. Who needs that shit?

                  On a lighter note - I wish everyone a wonderful AF Sunday!
                  I'm not planning anything big today, will see what happens

                  Lav
                  AF since 03/26/09
                  NF since 05/19/09
                  Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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                    #10
                    Morning all
                    last market, HURRAH! Slept like a rock last night, off to cut some more firewood, continue working on fence project. I see a couple of soggy days are on the horizon.

                    Read your comments TT, Sl, Lav and what strikes me is that at least everyone is sober and can assess/decide with a clear mind. To decide things that perhaps determine life changes with a bag on is the worst!!

                    Off to the salt mines.
                    Be well
                    Sam
                    Liberated 5/11/2013

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                      #11
                      Mae everybody new phone gotta get used to it just wanted to say hi and sorry partner is being an ass TT we still love you though
                      I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

                      I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
                      Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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                        #12
                        True words Sam.
                        And for fecks sake Lav - hope you swatted him upside the head - see if you could knock some sense in! Seriously though that's plain silly!
                        Did cookie baking - or girls did and I tidied up! Seven plates for the neighbors! They do have fun passing them out. I was really tempted to have a drink yesterday - not cravings or that, just persistent thoughts as to how nice a glass would be, just shows how persistent this all is.
                        Hope you are good today TT?
                        Hi Det, PPQ and Pauly. Sure we will see you in a bit Mick!
                        “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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                          #13
                          Not trying to spoil your Sunday but I have started the Monday thread. Enjoy the rest of your day!!

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                            #14
                            MAE ALL...

                            Interesting convo this morning. Can relate in sooo many ways! Like Sam says, at least clear minds can prevail. That to me is gratitude.

                            Quick visit with Dad yesterday. Very sleepy but looking really good. When awake did recognize me so that was good.

                            Day 2 of Vaca and spoiling myself with breakie in bed and another murder mystery to read.

                            Hope everyone has a Super Sober Sunday.......:smile:PPQP

                            Posted this and saw it landed on page 2. Still haven't got used to that. LOL Hi ya Pauly....hope things are good for you.
                            Last edited by porqoui; December 21, 2014, 03:35 PM.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by scottish lass View Post
                              I was really tempted to have a drink yesterday - not cravings or that, just persistent thoughts as to how nice a glass would be, just shows how persistent this all is.
                              Wow SL almost missed this....and just shows how positive MWO is. :heartbeat:

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