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    Lav, the other day I was commenting to Papmom about how phenomenal she has been in terms of completely turning her life around. She booted al to the curb, gradually added healthy activities and pass-times into her life, then after the heart attack made a complete change of diet and exercise. I mean, it's truly impressive!! But the whole time I was thinking about her turn-around I was also thinking you did much the same. You have really changed your life for the better and it is just so impressive! I'm proud to know you!

    Star, I know you will have a wonderful week full of family and love. I think back to how we all were just a few short years ago. What a difference! You are going to be present and aware and fully engaged emotionally. Can you imagine the difference if you were still drinking?! I think it is great that your daughter does not drink but a word of caution: I didn't drink either when having the children and while they were little. I hope your daughter doesn't follow my lead and go down the slippery slope as her little one gets older. You will guide her towards the light, I am sure!

    Pauly, I always look forward to your posts. I must say I was happy when you said you like iceberg. I feel so alone bc truth be told, I prefer iceberg to all the other lettuces! I know it isn't as healthy but I like it! LOL! I remember when I was growing up a popular salad was a Lettuce wedge smothered in thousand island dressing. I worked in a hospital dietary and that was one of the go to salad items. We really have come a long way with the variety and availablitly of fresh veggies and fruits but I'm with you, scatching my head about the food epidemic. The abundance of produce doesn't seem to making up for all the extra calories packed in our processed and pre-packaged convenience foods!

    So I was listening to the Bubble Hour podcast from Father's Day. One of the hosts was on with her father. He was talking about his alcholism and recovery and then watching his daughter go down the same road. It was a good discussion. He talked about how he tried to help her but he realized thru his own experieince that she couldn't be helped until she wanted it. He said he thought it was important as a parent to be sure to talk with your children about the disease and caution them about how it may possibly run in families, but beyond that, you can't say or do much more if your child decides to drink. It made me feel good bc that is my philosophy too. I've talked with my kids about it and told them they could have problems with it based on family history. But I didn't interfere much beyond that. Any thoughts on this subject?

    Have a peaceful AF evening everyone.
    Last edited by dill; June 23, 2015, 06:08 PM.
    Dill

    Dont forget, you can: start late, start over, be unsure, try and fail AND STILL SUCCEED!

    If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find an excuse.

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      Morning ladies, Dill,I've talked to these kids til I'm blue in the face about how they've got to be careful, they have alcoholism on both sides,hub's dad was one,my biological sperm donor(I refuse to call him dad) my mom,my grampa, even hubs for awhile but somehow he's able to control it now,but the kids still drink,bugs me,was thinking of what you wrote about Papmom and she is amazing, if I had a heart attack I'd probably sit around moping,scared to do anything for the rest of my life,she on the other hand grabbed life by the balls and is living fully,never looking back as far as booze and stuff,wish I could be a stronger person and not so fearful of everything, speaking of fruits and veggies, they too are messed with!I bought a tomato that was as big as Louie's head,it looked like Lav grew it in her monster garden haha,going organic is too expensive but I try to buy it when I can,alrighty I've prattled on long enough, hello Lav,Snoop,Tree,let's all have a great day
      I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

      I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
      Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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        Good morning friends,

        Grateful to be alive & well after that nasty storm yesterday!!!!
        It blew thru here around 5:30 pm, we've been without power since. The electric company is estimating 400,000 are without power in a 2 county area, geez
        I am using a borrowed, battery operated WiFi to get online.
        Lucky there was no damage here but some straight line winds did a good bit of damage nearby.

        Dill, before my daughter was married I watched her tiptoe the line with drinking for a while. She was down & out about life/work issues. I was worried as hell but at the time I couldn't say too much because I was still pounding the wine bottle myself. But, she did a complete turn around when she met her future husand, a totally abstinent guy - go figure! Everything works out for the best I guess My son seems to be a normal, 1 or 2 beer sort of drinker, thank goodness.

        OK, I'll check in later, hopefully on full power.
        Have a great AF Wednesday everyone!

        Lav
        AF since 03/26/09
        NF since 05/19/09
        Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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          Lav, I'm glad you made it thru the storm ok! I hope your power has been restored. It's fantastic that your daughter has married a non-drinker. I married a non-drinker too but that did not stop me from imbibing myself. I didn't drink for a long while after we were married but believe it or not, I started drinking on a regular basis at the suggestion of my eye doctor! I started getting floaters and he asked me about stress levels. I told him I was pretty stressed out at the end of the day with so much child care time. He suggested I unwind at the end of the day with a glass of wine. It worked very well for a while, but we all know what happened next!

          Pauly, that dad I was talking about watched his daughter's drinking spiral out of control but felt helpless to do anything until she was ready. But as it turns out, she started having some serious consequences racking up legal troubles from DUI's but still not wanting to quit. She hid those troubles from her dad. He didn't know how truly bad things were getting for her bc he didn't live nearby. Finally a caring friend organized an intervention and the dad was invited. He was the first to arrive and the daughter knew almost right away why he suddenly had appeared on her doorstep unannounced. As others started showing up she caved right away and started promising she would go for treatment. Having her dad there meant the world to her. Do you get the Bubble Hour podcasts?

          Hi Star, I know you are having a good time! Hi Cyn, ditto! And you too, Papmom!

          Have a peaceful Hump Day Evening.
          Dill

          Dont forget, you can: start late, start over, be unsure, try and fail AND STILL SUCCEED!

          If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find an excuse.

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            Just checking in. Super busy,no time to post but it is all good!

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              Good morning friends!

              Power ws restored overnight, yay!
              Just waiting for the cable company to do their thing.

              Dill, it used to be so common for a doc to recommend a drink or two/day for their patients. My Dad was told it would help his poor blood flow to his lower extremities. That was before the pharmaceutical companies started pumping us full of drugs to cure everything from A to Z I even remember pouring an ounce of whiskey (from a patient supplied bottle) to administer along with their evening meds - ridiculous.

              Hi Star, I imagine you are having quite the time this week

              Greetings Pauly, Papmom & Cyn!

              I am going to get to Curves today. I imagine their power is back on as well.
              Have a good AF Thursday everyone!

              Lav
              AF since 03/26/09
              NF since 05/19/09
              Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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                Hello All,

                Lav, alcohol is definitely useful for thinning the blood and inducing relaxed mood. But it has such potential for huge problems for many and there is no way to know ahead of time who those folks are. I doubt doctors today would give the advice I got. But, then again, he didn't tell me to drink a bottle of wine a night! Ha! He just suggested a glass. Thing is that glass emptied awfully fast...

                Hiya Pauly!

                Star, glad you're having a good time!

                More rain hear today! Unbelievable.
                Dill

                Dont forget, you can: start late, start over, be unsure, try and fail AND STILL SUCCEED!

                If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find an excuse.

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                  Hello friends, well one things for sure in my 10 years of drinking,I NEVER got a cold,had allergies, I was positive that it killed all the germs off haha,funny when you watch old shows and the doctor is smoking while talking to the patient, how things have changed, however I still hear all the benefits of one drink a day but really, what's the point, can get the same benefits from a glass of grape juice, now how come its easy to stop at one of those?this trying to eat healthy is bugging me I keep track of my food on fitbit,and even restricting myself I'm still eating too much,just makes me wanna drive to Sonic and buy a giant ice cream,and I'm gonna pig out the 4th of July, that's the best food hope everyone is enjoying their day
                  I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

                  I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
                  Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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                    Hello all - I missed you so much! We had very deep and wonderful experiences with the friends we met abroad, and all was good. But traveling is really really hard, sheesh. It took 21 hours to get home, (driving on both ends, plus a 9 hour flight, customs, etc).

                    I've managed to get quite a bit of critical work done today plus a couple of loads of laundry. Must head to bed now - jet lag is definitely kicking in. But I was able to read back a few days, and it was great to hear everyone's stories.

                    Good luck to all, and I'll meet up with you again sometime tomorrow --

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                      Welcome home Tree
                      I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

                      I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
                      Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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                        Glad you are back safe & sound Cyn. I want to hear all your stories

                        Pauly, don't make yourself crazy with the healthy eating thing.
                        Take a look at this: http://www.womenshealthmag.com/fitne...al-plan-week-1
                        Maybe you can try this plan for a week, see how it goes

                        Dill, how would we have ever known that our body chemistry would react to wine the way it did? It's all still a big mystery to me but one that I intend to leave alone!

                        Have a good night all!
                        AF since 03/26/09
                        NF since 05/19/09
                        Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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                          Just checking in again, all good, babysitting is no joke! Loving it.

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                            Welcome back, Cyn! So good to have you safely home. I think you'll appreciate this: I had to walk thru the high weeds and poison ivy last week searching for the weakest of the twin calves bc we didn't see it nursing. We found it and it could barely stand, but we managed to get it reunited with it's mother and it nursed and nursed again! So it is fine now and going to thrive. But I got anywhere between 20-30 chigger bites through my efforts!! Luckily no PI. I had on long pants and boots and took them off as soon as I got in the house. But those chiggers!

                            Star, you are in the thick of it it seems! No, babysitting is not easy at all! Especially with a baby! It gets easier as they grow of course, as you well know. But it still takes more energy than I ever realized it would. Enjoy.

                            Lav, I'm going to follow your link later this morning. Thanks! You are such a resource! As for "how would we have ever known"? Well, the writing was on the wall in my case. I knew my Dad drank too much. I watched him as a young person many times, especially at parties. I saw him drag himself out of bed the next morning with a hangover and take on the day. He managed to function tho. I think he just drank one or two thru the week nights but always seemed to over do on weekends. But being a young person, I didn't think that I would ever have any problems with wine. I could control it, I told myself. It wasn't the hard stuff, after all! I don't think we knew as much back then about alcoholism tho. It was taboo to discuss it much and drinking was simply an acceptable part of our parents lives. It was the 60"s after all! Did you ever watch the show called Madmen? I never did but have heard that it depicted the 60's pretty well.

                            Pauly, I hear you on being sick of eating right. I seem to be of the same frame of mind right now. What I have done in the past is focus on the healthy foods that I like, and try to incorporate them more into my daily diet. For instance, I like fresh tomatoes in the summer, cucumbers, celery, grapes, mellon. So I try to make them the first thing I go to when I am hungry. It's easier in the summer because you can actually get produce that tastes good and is grown locally. Maybe just let yourself have a half cup or so of icecream every night. Would that help? That way you wouldn't be craving so bad. I think it's all about the sugars we are craving that we used to get in alcohol.

                            We picked a slew of gooseberries yesterday so today or tomorrow will be making gooseberry jam. Have any of you ever tried it? I never have but I hear it is good and I'm game to try! The hardest part is you have to trim the stem and end blossom off each berry! I don't even want to think how many berries are in 9 cups.....
                            Last edited by dill; June 26, 2015, 05:37 AM.
                            Dill

                            Dont forget, you can: start late, start over, be unsure, try and fail AND STILL SUCCEED!

                            If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find an excuse.

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                              Good morning friends!

                              Dogs were up way too early, oh well. It rained last night & they didn't want to go out before bedtime.
                              Combine that with my worsening sleep over the past few months due to increased hot flashes, ugh. Weaning off the HRT is not going well at all & I am supposed to go to an even smaller dose later this summer.

                              Pauly, what Dill said about sugars is so true.
                              I never craved sugar when I was guzzling wine but when I quit - oh boy! I read somewhere here that L-Glutamine helps & it did the trick for me. I only took it for a week or two & haven't had problems since. Take a look at this: http://www.foodrenegade.com/how-beat...ngs-glutamine/
                              It's cheap & it works! Sugar is so bad for us in so many ways it's good to break that addiction too

                              Wishing everyone a great AF Friday!

                              Lav
                              AF since 03/26/09
                              NF since 05/19/09
                              Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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                                Hello friends, Lav,think I'm just stress eating or just a pig haha,yesterday I did break down and got a small ice cream, but then I eyeballed some sour cream and onion chips on the counter and ate those too,I told hubs I feel like I'm pms-ing without the pms,broke down crying in the morning to him,this just isn't like me,I asked the doc about the hormone levels that they tested and she said they're not very accurate, so maybe I'm premenopausal?she says if I knew when my mom started that would be the best clue, but when my mom was my age she left my dad to raise the kids so she could run wild with every man in town, I had just had Michelle so I wasn't very focused on what mom was up to hormonal wise,I ask her now but her brains fried from drinkin so she doesn't remember menopause, Snoop,enjoy babysitting when you get to,it is work though,sometimes I thinkits more work wwatching Louie than actually going to real work haha,Dill,if your jam turns out send us all a jar just kidding, good to see you back Tree,day off so who knows what I'll do,have a Fun Friday everyone
                                I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

                                I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
                                Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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