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    #16
    I think I've got it !

    go on treat yourself ... have 5 ..oh, you have already !

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      #17
      I think I've got it !

      Way to go Pebbles. When it comes to moderation I think is all about having to find our own way out. RJ explored a lot. Abs is simple, very very hard, but simple. Moderation is ..what... more complex??...easier but not?? I don't know! All I know is that I struggle. The past 10 days or so have been great & I felt that "By Gosh, I think I've got it." feeling too. I am listening to the subliminal overlay cds at night & I have a subliminal program running on my computer all day. I just feel good & do not want to wreck that with a hangover. Even when I drink some, my "sober Jean" is strong & talks a lot to the "alkie Jean" and it seems working. I am also not depressed (always a trigger for good hangover). Are these mind things that powerful?? Don't know.

      Doing abs days is definitely good -- I just hate them --that's all. Need to work on that.

      Carry on fellow warrioress.

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        #18
        I think I've got it !

        Hi Pebbles,

        Glad you are feeling so much more positive. Are you all settled in in your new house now? I have been away and feel so far behind the times here.

        love Waves
        Enough is enough

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          #19
          I think I've got it !

          Chyrsa - so true Abs is simple - so black and white while mods is shades of grey. Which is why you have to have a really simple mod plan, mine can't be based on days of the week I've decided.

          Am I in the house ? are other people here drinking ? yes...OK drink moderatley...NO, don't.
          Am I out ? are other people drinking ? yes...OK drink moderatley....NO, don't.

          Still doing OK. Had a work do yesterday, SIPPED 2 glasses of wine all evening and didn't dive into another bottle when I got home...another first !

          Waves!!!!! Bless, yes the house is great, just need to sell the other one now ! bit expensive running 2 mortgages in this climate !!! lovely to see you back, how are you doing?

          xxxx

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            #20
            I think I've got it !

            I am glad that you love the house. All with me is fine. :l

            You sound to be doing great.
            Enough is enough

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              #21
              I think I've got it !

              I'm glad you're doing well too Waves.

              It's still early days for me and I'm clinging on by my fingernails, specially hard at that special time of day...you know ?

              My little boy's aunts threw a tea party for his birthday yesterday...he is now officially the most spoilt nearly four year old in the world! If there is any Lightning McQueen merchandise that they and his grandparents haven't bought him...I don't actually believe it exists.

              Again, sipped wine and didn't top up when got home. Maybe I' m learning.

              Today - I'm at home, nobody's here, ergo - Abs !

              have a good sunday everyone.
              xxx

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                #22
                I think I've got it !

                Pebbles, I so relate!!!..I think taking each day, even in mods, is the way for me...each day is different...I decide near the end of the day if I will drink & how much...I think it works because I am so much more aware because of MWo... thx for the posts...helps to clarify..

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                  #23
                  I think I've got it !

                  haha.. thats good if it works. my problem is when i go out i get drunka nd make a fool out of myself. lol

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                    #24
                    I think I've got it !

                    Pebbles, it's so great to hear you are doing so well. I also take everything each day as it comes right now and don't plan way out. That seems to be working for me. Keep posting I like the updates!
                    "Keep your eyes and heart focused on the end goal at all times, and never settle for less."

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                      #25
                      I think I've got it !

                      Thank you all for your support.

                      I think that's the key, I know it's a classic AA thing...one day at a time and I've never "got" AA at all, but if I try to plan "way out" as Beaches says it completely freaks me out! I can't think of Christmas, Birthdays, BBQs etc etc etc without a drink, but I can think of today, at home, an ordinary Monday without one.

                      Actually, Me145, you've got a point too, for me it's a 2 point work in progress. Firstly, stopping the secret, hidden drinking at home. Secondly, moderating when out at social events. Slowing it down so that I can feel it's too much when there's enough time to stop, before it's too late. The topa helps a lot with that and upping the kudzu before going out.

                      Off now for an appointment with my friend Mr Dyson, haven't seen him for a while.

                      take care
                      xxx

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                        #26
                        I think I've got it !

                        Hi Pebbles and all others

                        you and I have PMd a lot Pebbles. I totally share your struggle. I HATE the idea of Abs. I was moderating well till I stopped the topa... then started the secret daytime drinking (in coffee mugs so my aupair wouldn't notice - what a LOSER!) and getting drunk every night

                        Im back on all the supps and extpecting the topa again soon. had 2 dry nights out of 4 and a lot less than usual on the "wet" days. So, progress.

                        Agree that staying at home alone is def an abs night, going out could be mods if you're up to it. I find it very hard without the topa.

                        Oh it bores me, this struggle. I bore myself. Still, onwards...!

                        lots of love and luck to you all, Rip x

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                          #27
                          I think I've got it !

                          Hey, Rip,

                          you sound thoroughly fed up ! but I remember when the topa kicked in for you it did work really well, it totally clicked. DO NOT do what I did, I ran out and when it came, took 200mg straight away....could not walk, talk or sleep...my other half thought I was totally pissed, but it was the topa, god I felt awful for days! Go back to 25mg and titrate up slowly.

                          Glad you're back here though, it is a struggle and we can't do it on our own.

                          And hey, you're not boring !!! (and I bet the au pair knew really)

                          xxxx

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                            #28
                            I think I've got it !

                            Ripley,
                            Glad you are back. I did the same thing when I went off Topa. I thought I had it all under control then slowly I went back to the heavier drinking at night to drinking in the am to get over the damn hangovers on the weekends. During the weekdays I found myself drinking as early as possible. I agree it's boring, very boring and frustrating as hell.

                            I am on a very low dose of Topa and seems to be doing the trick. I am going to try for some dry nights this week as well and see how it goes. Not promising myself anything just going to see. My volume is down significantly again so that's promising. So the merry go round continues.

                            Pebbles, yeah that would be a shock to the body I would imagine! Glad you went back down on the dosage. I am also at 25 and hanging there for awhile.

                            Best of luck to us all!
                            "Keep your eyes and heart focused on the end goal at all times, and never settle for less."

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                              #29
                              I think I've got it !

                              This is a really interesting thread...thanks Pebbles and everyone. I'm still pondering what I will do when I get to my 30 days AF this week......you're so right that abs is more straightforward than mods. Also I really agree about not drinking at home alone....there's nothing to stop you getting completely out of your tree I suppose successful mods is different for everyone...but abs is the same whatever lol

                              Is that Mr Dyson the one I think it is? Stay away.....you could get addicted to housework.
                              Just hand me the chocolate and.........I'll consider my position. My solicitor has advised me to say no more than that.

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                                #30
                                I think I've got it !

                                Hi Slighlysuze, thanks for your support too, it's really helping me clarify my thinking and what I'm trying to achieve by writing it down.

                                You see, Abs is crystal clear if you're going for long term, never going to touch a drop ever again, teetotal for life Abs, which frightens me silly (daft huh ?). But mods IS different for everyone and it's really hard to get a workable plan for life.

                                Before now, I've been thinking I've been moderating, but still drinking daily, BUT that was moderating for me as it was 1 or 2 drinks a day not 1 or 2 bottles.

                                Now I'm trying not to drink daily....my goodness it was hard last night. Nothing special, just everyone annoyed me, husband, little boy, dogs, everything!

                                Grumpy, Snappy, Shouty, Snipy, Irritable and all the rest of the seven dwarves - that was me ! But I still didn't have a drink.

                                Yes, it is the same Mr Dyson, he lives in the cupboard under the stairs...he is a stranger to me, there is NO danger of housework addiction. I once looked at the Flylady website...could not believe my eyes. WHO has that much time in the day?

                                take care
                                xxx

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