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    I've been using an Equisync meditation cd, and they say it can eliminate anxiety, depression, addictions, etc. I e-mailed them (eocinstitute.org) asking if they thought a person with a drinking problem could learn to moderate, and the response was something like "that is easily achieved - meditation is they key - do a google search on meditation and alcoholism and you should find plenty of research"

    I've been meditating with it for about a month and thought I could have a couple beers in the middle of the day and not continue. Well, after a couple, I "changed my mind" and continued. Guess I need to meditate some more before trying that again. Disappointing. Maybe I had better read that post by Hippie37 again about being honest with oneself. I get confused because I really think I can moderate, just haven't gotten there yet. Maybe it's time to try Baclofen. I really wanted this mediation thing to work though. Maybe if I get the next level cd.

    My daughter and I made a video last night of her barbies, and I'm in it...I looked at it very nervously this morning to see if you could tell I'd been drinking...I looked normal, I guess.

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    "easily achieved." Wow. I bet those folks never ran into me anywhere! :H

    I'm glad nothing really bad happened once the drinking started. Your post gave me a chill because I well remember the COUNTLESS times I decided to have "a" mid-day drink and STOP. Only I didn't stop - I kept going. Every time.

    What are the reasons you even want to keep drinking? When I REALLY got down to it, I finally figured out I don't really want what normal people get out of drinking. I want to get drunk - just do it safely somehow. There is just no possible way to safely drink the way I want to drink. It's so much easier to just abstain.

    Strength to you as you sort this out for YOU.

    DG
    Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
    Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


    One day at a time.

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      Well, I guess I want to be "normal" and drink like other people, I like the taste, and the buzz, but not to really get drunk...that's just the way it turns out sometimes in the process of wanting to keep the buzz going! Starting early is never a good idea...I know that...but this time I thought I'd stop because I'd fixed my brain with meditation...apparently it's not fixed! Sigh. Thanks for the wishes for strength.

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        someone_else - I have tried everything short of a santaria ritual to manage my alcohol dependency. I realized that I just could not moderate. I must say that this program along with topamax & supplements have been the ONLY effective tools I've found.
        Outside of a dog a book is mans best friend. Inside of a dog its too dark to read

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          Hi Someone,
          Have you tried going alcohol (af) free for 30 day's? If not, give it a go. It will force you to THINK about your relationship with booze, and for me, was a very interesting and useful eye-opener. There is no magic pill, and even with med's, supp's and meditation, we must still be pro-active with ourselves and do the work too. Have a look at the 'Toolbox' thread here, in 'monthly abstinence' section.

          Best wishes. G.

          'I am part of all that I have met, yet all experience is an arch wherethro', gleams that untravelled world whose margins fade, forever and forever when I move'

          Zen soul Warrior. Freedom today-

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            Hi, yes, I did 50 days once, about a year and a half ago, then slowly started trying to mod again, and it seems to creep up on me. If I could just catch it before it gets out of control, it would be great. I need to deal with stress, etc., without drinking. That's important. I know I have dealt with difficult things and gotten through rough days without drinking...sometimes I get careless for no apparent reason. Well, I like to put it in the past tense, anyway. I know what can happen if I think, "Oh, just a couple beers in the afternoon..." best not to do that!

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              applause

              i applaud anyone who wants to mod drinking and sticks to it. i, for one, can't do it. no matter how many times i'd think that i'd be ok, alcohol taught me again and again that i'm not in control. it gets tough sometimes--even reading a book? there's so much dialogue about drinking. tv? give me a break--everyone drinks on tv, and they all do it so well and easily, so i ask what is wrong w/me that i can't stop once i start. i've done so much damage to my brain and now have a chemical imbalance where alcohol is concerned. if i take a sip, i might just as well have had a whole bottle of the hard stuff, cause my brain once again wants it. applause to all of you who can mod, wish that i could, but i can't, no matter how hard i attempt to convince myself that i'll be ok "this time."

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                Haha, I just read this thread.

                I have used Holosync for about 5 - 6 years now and continue to drink. Everything else is fine, I settled down and stopped thinking that everyone hated me, and the little voices quietened down, except the one who tells me to drink.

                Its genetic as well as mental, how can meditation deal with genetics?
                Time to whip AL's Ass :b&d:
                :h ya
                Trix

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