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    Hello everyone. Felt kind of sneaky to post last night on Bashly’s new thread without first having written a proper intro – but I got tired, was smoking cigs to the point of giving myself a headache and decided to call it a well done day two AF and go to bed. THANK YOU to those who posted a welcome on Bashly’s thread – I was tickled by them – you really are a wonderful group of people.

    I’ve been lurking and reading here this summer and have learned a lot about what to expect, possible pitfalls, and mostly not felt alone or discouraged, though sometimes what I read scares me – which is not necessarily bad.

    Until this past month, the last time I can remember going a day or more without a drink was two years ago while recovering from minor surgery. Before than it was maybe four years ago.

    I became concerned about my drinking a little over a year ago. Attempts to moderate failed. A drastic reduction resulted only in my taking half a mg of Ativan daily. Fortunately, I’m off that. In January of this year I started on 5mg of an SSRI but was still drinking to the tune of 1-2 bottles of wine a night. My doc knew I was reluctant to enter detox and suggested I see a counselor. Having had a totally useless experience with counseling years before (not alcohol related) it took me a while to find someone.

    I found one who was emphatic about treating the mind and body, including exercise and nutrition. I like the proactive approach & I had read about a technique called EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) which this counselor practices. It took a while for me to take the leap but I did it.

    I had just started an intense cardio/strength class, yoga, and meditation being sick and tired of feeling sick and tired. The counselor provided EFT training – (though the basics can be found online for free) audio tapes for autogenic relaxation, and suggested reading. I credit The Power of Now with giving me the most compelling understanding I have ever had about my thought processes and emotions. It has been crucial to every change that has taken place in the past three months. I also started visiting this site. Along with the reading on MWO, I now have what I lacked in previous attempts – a toolbox.


    I still haven’t ordered the supps – funny how I didn’t have much obvious concern about taking an SSRI and consuming alcohol, but I’m concerned about the puerarin content in Kudzu affecting my serotonin while on the SSRI.

    I’m only on day 3. I have been moderating and skipping days for the past month to hopefully lessen withdrawal symptoms. I know from reading other’s posts that the worst may be yet to come. I declined going away with my husband for a big sporting event weekend. I need to take the cardio class tonight and tomorrow morning and stay busy and stay away from party atmospheres. Fortunately, my husband is supportive even if a bit uncertain about this. He doesn't think I have a prob, just drink a leetle too much. You know, I put my clothes on everyday and do a good job at work, he just doesn't see how my drinking is problematic.

    Day 3 and still a lot to learn – a new lifelong pursuit. Trying to keep it in the perspective of a positive challenge rather than pitiful deprivation.

    Well, that's my intro. I'm out of the office today but have an appointment soon. Will check in later with a cup of tea.

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    Hi and Welcome, ChangeAgent,

    I too am new here and my story as with most other stories, is very similar to yours. Alcohol is truly a destroyer masquerading as a friend. It is very difficult to finally face the fact that while still highly functioning in the world, our world, our secret world with alcohol is slowly and persistantly destroying our health, our minds and yes, I believe our souls.

    Today I printed the book and I am anxious to get to reading it in just a little while. The journey begins!

    Best Wishes, I hope that you stick around!
    Kate
    A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes~Cinderella

    AF 12/6/2007

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      Thank you Kate, you're so thoughtful and concise. Your post contains a key word: slowly.

      It helped me remember something crucial to why I want to quit drinking. Early in the year I took a look at a slice of my daily life lnow compared to 7-10 years ago. I don't garden as avidly. I don't like house cleaning more than the next person but I once did it diligently and gained satisfaction from the results, now I really drag it out and procrastinate. I lost interest in decorating. I don't buy flowers and put them in vases. Photos are no longer put in albums, they are in shoe boxes and drawers. Seems like small stuff, but my behavior is changed for the worse. And it happened slowly, insidiously...

      If I noticed it it was just a glimmer that I attributed to personal losses and stressful times. It took contrasting distant years see the profound change and recognize it for what it is: Alcohol induced apathy.

      How long til it would creep in further and affect my marriage, my job, my desire to live well?

      Thank you Kate. I needed a good reminder tonight.

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        Welcome Changeagent and Kate!

        Just a quick welcome to you both as I am off to bed.

        My dogs have given me kennel cough, they picked it up at the kennel while I was away ~despite being vaccinated (cough, snif,snort....) but I had let mine lapse you see as I was not staying in the kennel but actually going away.

        So the three of us are off to bed after going out to pee but we hope to continue to see you around, it's nice to have both of you here! Such articulate women!

        magic xx :schmokin:
        ~Are you looking for the Holy One?
        I am in the next seat.
        My shoulder is against yours. ~Kabir

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          Hi Change and Kate...welcome both! You've posted really thoughtful, helpful ideas. One thing that struck me particularly was 'positive challenge rather than pitiful deprivation'. That's been a really key idea for me - it's got me to day 26 AF so far. But one thing I wanted to say as an encouragement is that after about day 7/8 the sense of challenge was replaced with something more gentle, almost contemplative. A sense of peace and rightness.......less a struggle, more a happy acceptance, and at times a celebration. It's hard to put into words....but it was unexpected and wonderful.

          Good luck to you both.....this place will help you enormously on your journey.

          Suze
          Just hand me the chocolate and.........I'll consider my position. My solicitor has advised me to say no more than that.

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            Hi Change and Kate

            You've written some amazing words - especially from the viewpoint of a few days!!! Wow, you guys are going to feel utopian after a few months!!

            I certainly have noticed that, of course I felt better after 30 days or so; alcohol is after all a poison, but that now I can't believe that even one glass a day must have produced that "Alcohol induced apathy" (great phrase) for years! Just how many others in society are suffering that? Without sounding evangelistic or suggesting 'they have a problem', how does one suggest that friends try it? I mean, you can't and just know that if they discover it one day (without going to far to HAVE to find it) they'll be prety happy! (And I don't mean everyone who imbibes has a 'problem' - just that this stuff really IS a poison!)

            I really wish you all the luck, courage and direction in the world!

            :welcome: :welcome:

            Love FMF xx
            (113 days!)
            :heart: c: :heart:
            "Be patient and gentle with yourself - the magic is in you."

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              Thanks everyone! SlighlySuzie, it was good to read about what I might experience at 7/8.

              Magic, sorry to hear about the kennel cough. Ugh. But I hope you didn't have to actually go out to pee :H

              magic;195309 wrote: So the three of us are off to bed after going out to pee

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                Here I am on Saturday morning posting for the first time. Your posts are so identical to my situation that I just had to respond. My situation is that I too am very highly functioning but have noticed my life diminishing slowly. I no longer care to even go out in the evenings because I like being at home with my wine. I look forward to it and look at the clock to ensure I don't begin too early. I have never missed work nor does anyone suspect that I drink too much, at least that I'm aware of.

                My husband too believes that I have my wine at night and I work hard and I should relax but I know he doesn't believe I have a problem. But I know I do and I haven't yet been able to do anything about it. I have tremendous self-discipline in other areas and I don't want this to control me, but I'm realizing that it is controlling me. Although I'm careful not to go over my worknight limit, on the weekends I often drink enough to make me somewhat hung over the next day.

                I am determined to stop this and I did read the book and listened to the tapes for a while last winter. I never really did change my behaviour much although I did moderate some. I don't feel right now that I can really do the abstinence thing. All I can do is commit to continuing to come to this site and get motivated to moderate more. I don't want my life to continue to shrink, however I just don't know what to do to to stop what I recognize is a slow downward spiral. I too have stopped doing many of the little things that used to bring order to our lives. My pics too are in shoeboxes instead of the albums I used to create with care and my house needs attention as it never did years ago even though I had children at home then, so even more to do. Today is the first day of the rest of my life I know, so I will go down and work out first and then tackle that refrig!

                I also believe that the drinking eats away at my self confidence. How can one feel truly good about oneself if there is this big secret cloud hanging over one's head? THat 's what I need to clear out. I appreciate so much hearing from you who seem to be in such similar circumstances.

                Lynn

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                  Hi Lynn, and welcome. I believe you have found a good place in MWO. Since I'm new to this (Day 4) I have some things very fresh in my mind. I put forth the following with respect - we are all individuals. What works for one of us may not work for the other.

                  - Before you have that first drink, postpone it by at least 15 minutes. Go someplace quiet and alone, even if you have to take a warm shower. Unpack your feelings: breath deeply and slowly and remove them from you so you can look at them objectively. You may start to uncover some emotional reasons behind the desire for alcohol. Before you pour another glass, walk away and do the same thing again. Even if you step away to fold laundry or tidy a room, do so slowly and purposefully. Allow yourself to relax. Step away from the glass and give yourself quiet space. Try some relaxation techniques. Take a short walk.


                  - If you're not the type to relish bedtime but would rather stay up drinking (I know this behavior very well) try a new twist on your thought process about it: Bedtime is a daily 7-8 hour vacation. It's time to let the conscious mind and body rest and allow the subconcious play time.

                  - You mention needing motivation. I think you will find it if you continue to persue progressive reduction in your drinking. As you do you will probably feel better physically and mentally. Allow yourself to contemplate and dwell on those good feelings. It will help reinforce your efforts.

                  Wishing the best for you. Hope you stick around and keep reading and posting.

                  K.

                  Another long post - sheesh! I guess I talk too much even when I'm not drinking LOL.

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                    Hi Lynn,
                    Yes, we all are so similar. Sometimes I wish the stuff never existed because I know that there are many, many more of us hiding with the shame and secrecy. I also became lazier and lazier ( alcohol induced apathy, what a perfect description.) My car was dirty and unneat, my garden neglected, slowly - slowly everything around you starts sliding backward. Making appointments with good friends to go out to dinner or the movies and then not turning up because I was simply to sozlled and sleepy to get up. Losing sunglasses and prescription spectacles and even sneaking alcohol from a friend's cupboard. Jughhh. And then the remorse and shame and self loathing that follows. And we call it a good time !!!!
                    I'm on the point of going to rehab for 4 weeks - have been trying for a year desperately to go AF but not succesful.
                    Good luck to you all.
                    Love
                    Jessie
                    make the least of the worst, and the most of the best - everyday.

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                      Hi Change Agent and Jessie,
                      Thank you for your thoughtful posts. I have tried postponing my drinking in the evenings but if I start at say, 7:30 PM, rather than 7:00 PM, I find I will use that and stay up later by a half hour! I MUST get my drinking in, sad as it is.

                      I do hope I find motivation in reducing my drinking though. I do think I'll feel better about myself. Plus I hope to be able to sleep more soundly. Now I wake up around 2:00 - 3:00 AM each morning and can't seem to get back to sleep. I've read that that can be caused by drinking. So I very much want to be clearer headed in the mornings and well rested. That is a very big motivator for me.

                      I do wish I could uncover the emotional reasons why I drink. I have a very challenging, stressful job and I honestly think that I just like to collapse at the end of the day with my glass of cabernet and "chill out". Trouble is, I don't know when to stop. I think probably for me the answer is that I must be alcohol free but yet I can't make myself even start it. I want to but I don't! It sounds so childish but I need to keep coming here to keep it foremost in my head hoping that I will get the incentive to quit. Meanwhile, I'm really going to try to moderate. Jessie, good for you for keeping on trying to be alcohol free. It seems as if it takes a few times for most.

                      Jessie, I do have one family member and another friend who did the 4 week rehab program successfully. My sister in law has now been AF around 5 years and my friend for almost one year so the rehabs worked in both their cases.

                      Thank you for your help.

                      Lynn

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