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    Just found this forum. Knowing I need to do something about my drinking; my father was alcoholic, and ended up killing himself. I have fears of ending up the same way.

    I am a 56 year old woman, a professional-type, with a whole bunch of recent major stressors. Forced out of my job 6 months ago; loss of two old friends, a couple, after one of them developed cognitive problems (and a whole lot of anger) after a stroke; most recently, my mother (my only living relative), who has always been quite emotionally abusive and narcissistic, is in a nursing home with possible dementia and definite paranoia. And she is trying to go home... which will/would create enormous problems.

    I did 3 years in AA, a long time ago... I tried going back there, a couple of years ago, but found that I just do not benefit from all the dogma (yes, some of it is true, but a lot of it is not). It is just too much like a religion, and I am also not interested in engaging in discussions about how "sick" we all are, or about our "disease," and "personality defects" etc.

    So I spent much of the morning online, running some searches. Looks as if topramil is a good medication. I'm quite skeptical about hypnosis, but willing to check into it. Need to read a lot more about all this. Have downloaded the book.

    Not sure about my next step(s)... Will do some reading here on the forum, and am open to suggestions.

    Thank you.

    #2
    another new person, feeling pretty lousy

    Hi Jez and Welcome

    I am only 18 days AF, so I can't give alot of advice. I can only tell u what I am currently doing. I had several sober years in AA. I really did not want to go back, but I have because I am almost always alone, and I need to have sober friends. I am also using this forum and program. I am not using meds, just alot of vitamins. I am planning to buy the L-Glut when I get to Walmart. It is cheaper there. I also need to find something to help with sleep. I look forward to reading your posts. Again. Welcome back to the Good Life.
    "Decide-Which Voice in Your Head you Can Keep Alive" (Shinedown)

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      #3
      another new person, feeling pretty lousy

      Hi Jez,

      Welcome, I am about to burn dinner again so don't have much time but just wanted to extend a warm welcome and the only advice I can offer is to read the book!!!

      I hope you are holding up okay:l

      I too look forward to reading more of your posts.
      "The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it"

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        #4
        another new person, feeling pretty lousy

        Hello Jez, I've been on this site for 10 months and although I am not totally AF I have had a lot of AF days since I have joined this site. More in the 10 months since I've joined than in the past 16 years so I consider it a huge success for me although not where I want to be. The people on this site are very supportive and offer a lot of encouragement and helpful suggestions. Most are willing to help in anyway they can. Look forward to seeing you on the boards.

        Cucks

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          #5
          another new person, feeling pretty lousy

          keep going Jez

          try not to be sceptical as it really works - just reading posts etc is a huge help - and can give you something to do when you usually drink!
          Even though I didnt quite make it through day 2 I am going to try again - its Wednesday here in Australia and so I am going to make it to Friday at the very least
          I have never gone for two days AF so will be a huge accomplishment for me
          :h

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            #6
            another new person, feeling pretty lousy

            Welcome Jez
            I'm glad you found this site. You will find alot of information and alot of people who are just like you. I think that reading and posting helps, but the support you will find here is truly amazing.

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              #7
              another new person, feeling pretty lousy

              Thanks, all. Got through this evening without drinking, and without wanting to drink. That's actually my usual pattern; every few years, I'll get disgusted when my drinking gets way out of hand, and I will quit. Sometimes for months, sometimes for a few years. And then I end up deciding that it's OK to drink again...

              I read the MyWayOut book, and bought most of the supplements... Haven't ordered the hypno-recordings yet... That's the part I am most skeptical about... I'll probably go ahead and order them tomorrow. I am also re-starting my daily meditation (mindfulness practice, as in Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction, or Vipassana, or Insight Meditation).

              Onward. Old Zen saying is something along the lines of: Fall down seven times, get back up eight times.

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                #8
                another new person, feeling pretty lousy

                Hi Jez... boy can I relate! My father died of cirrhosis at age 49. I'm a 54-year-old professional who has been highly functional all my working life on top of raising a wonderful daughter with my hubby of 30 years. But in the past few years life has just whammied me over and over and over... losing my adorable in-laws 9 months apart, being diagnosed with breast cancer, mastectomy, chemotherapy, 10 months of more "light" chemo, couldn't work for over a year and now finding it hard to get back into the workforce, losing a friend to ovarian cancer (our daughters played together for years). I sank into the abyss and, like you, I am here because I need help to get my life back. I used meditation and self-hypnotherapy 15 years ago to quit smoking and have never gone back. I am ready and willing to use it again to get my drinking way back down to social and occasional instead of daily and heavy. I know it's going to be a lot of work on top of my stressors but I am ready for this... I want to live to see my grandchildren, retire with my husband and get my health back. I'm ready to love myself enough to really give this priority in my life. I would be honored to be your MWO online buddy if you like.
                Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. -- Nelson Mandala 1994

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                  #9
                  another new person, feeling pretty lousy

                  welcom,i also am in your catagorie,55,off and on drinkin for years,never had a problem stoppin,never stayed stopped,ended up in a sanitarium this past winter, didnt scare me,but did make me think,put it this way bein sane,and in a place like that, will intimidate anyone,life is a lernin process and i like you ,found this place ,if you want to feel comfortable i have yet to find a better place,gyco again welcome

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                    #10
                    another new person, feeling pretty lousy

                    Thanks, Madge, Gyco, everyone. Amazing what life throws at us... amazing what we can survive. The trick is to thrive, not just survive, and I know that is possible... I actually teach this stuff, as a psychologist and a mindfulness instructor, and that of course seems ironic. But really, it isn't... just another (feels devastating) life lesson in Being Human.

                    Madge, online buddy sounds good. How would that work?

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                      #11
                      another new person, feeling pretty lousy

                      Hi Jez,

                      :welcome:

                      I liked the idea of this programme because of it's natural everyday approach although you can take meds if needed. I do not want to go to my doctor or AA but I know I need help.

                      I am actually not taking anything and just by reading here and posting I am doing ok -way more AF days than in the last 20 years. I am now determined to go 30 days AF in a row, on day 5 now and then take it from there. I too am also a psychologist and always talking to people about stress management, career management, looking after themselves and their mental health etc. so yes, ironic but then we are all still human no matter what we do for a living!

                      Wishing you the best in whatever way you decide to approach this. By the way I would love to know how you get on with the supplements and especially the cds if you do decide to get them.
                      :h
                      Bandit
                      There will come a time when you believe everything is finished. That will be the beginning.

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                        #12
                        another new person, feeling pretty lousy

                        Hey Jez-

                        Welcome from me too! I related to much of your story. I'm also a meditator and had some years AF in AA. Been here at MWO since October and doing great.

                        You're doing all the right stuff, if you ask me! Just keep putting the various MWO tools into use, keep reading and posting, and let the journey unfold......... you'll get just where you want to go as long as you keep at it and don't give up no matter what.

                        Good luck! Look forward to hearing more.......

                        WW xox

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                          #13
                          another new person, feeling pretty lousy

                          Drinking is just a slow form of suicide...

                          I read that somewhere years ago and it makes sense. And I've decided to not go that route any more. For some incredible reason, the universe has given me chance after chance (some amazing ones too, trust me!) I have finally reached a point in my life where I'm thinking... why am I even still here? I believe I have a purpose and I need to be very sober to figure it out... either that or what I am going through is my purpose and I need to figure out why that is and how I can help others. Yep - I am a work in progress for sure. I once had a bipolar employee who had a wonderful t-shirt: "God isn't finished with me yet". Thank heavens I say!
                          Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. -- Nelson Mandala 1994

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                            #14
                            another new person, feeling pretty lousy

                            Thanks, all... I'm still doing the supps, no topa yet, meditation, exercise (just some brisk walking most days) and finally I got a good night's sleep last night. Up at 5am instead of what had become my usual 3 or 3:30. I feel pretty good today. The first 3 AF days I felt foggy (which is not typical for me when I stop drinking) and I wondered if one or more of all those supps was doing something weird to me.

                            Triggers are few and cravings have been very mild... threw all the booze out of the house, but there is still some vodka in my mother's house, and I worked over there by myself all afternoon, getting it in shape to bring her home, and also have a 24-hour caregiver. 4pm rolled around, and I thought about drinking... then just had some more ice water. My motivation level is really high right now, and I am not even thinking about any possibility of moderate drinking. I done went that way already, several times, and it just doesn't work, for me. I am not at all sure what I think about RJ's experience of losing all craving, never being tempted to drink whole bottles of whiskey or whatever... and right now, at day #4 AF, it doesn't even seem particularly relevant to me! Maybe later, it will. But if so, then I will be afraid I am just kidding myself...

                            I haven't read Dyer but I hear good things about his work and writing. I am definitely not religious although I struggled with Catholicism for a LONG time) BUT I am a strong believer in much of Buddhist teaching, and that helps me considerably. For example, I believe that when I am hurting myself, I am hurting all beings.

                            Yeah, drinking for me is slow suicide, and it horrifies me to think I would do what my father did.

                            I hope all of you have a good weekend!

                            wip

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                              p.s.: click here (I haven't figured out how to embed stuff, yet).

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