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    #16
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    I'm so sorry Frogster, as many have suggested CONTINUE your counselling, grieving, and self-forgiveness.

    Looking to grow - I surely do not get your point. I don't believe this post deserves contention.
    Enlightened by MWO

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      #17
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      Frogster

      I am so sorry to hear of your pain but I have also studied lots of metaphysical stuff, and I agree with EvieLou- your babies soul will simply have attached itself to another body, and is probably even somebody you know today.

      I know that is hard to get you head round if your beliefs are different.

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        #18
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        Frogzter,
        Love and hugs to you.
        What a horrible experience for you to go through, but like others have said, there must have been a good reason at the time.
        One thing my dad always says to me is that "things happen for a reason"... you may not find out that reason in this lifetime. You miss her terribly, every day of your life, but God needed her more in Heaven than to put her on Earth.. how special and important she must be needed there!
        And, one day (in the FAR distant future) she'll be waiting to meet you.
        You need to talk to a counsellor about this.. and join a support group, for other women who have been through the same thing.
        Whatever your beliefs are about this life/the afterlife, have Faith and know that she would never want you to suffer as you have been and are still doing.
        Live your life for yourself, and your son.
        Love,
        Chelle.
        ?I am playing all the right notes... But not necessarily in the right order.....?

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          #19
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          Frog my heart is just aching for you. I don't have any words of wisdom. I am not religious and am still searching my spirituality but I do believe what Evie said is true... I hope you find some comfort.

          Thinking of you and sending you positive vibes

          Love Dee
          "The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it"

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            #20
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            Frog

            How are you feeling today? Any better?

            Lila

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              #21
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              Frogster,

              I do hope today has dawned better for you and you keep posting. "Talking" and sharing your feelings nealr always helps...even if just a little.

              I can not imagine the pain you must feel and hope you find an awesome counselor to assist you in feeling better.

              Erin
              Happy to be AF Since 9.13.08

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                #22
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                Frog,
                I feel the enormity of your pain but hope very much you can find a way to stop letting it destroy YOUR life. Your decision is in the past and you can't go back- YOUR life is in the here and now and YOU are worth saving. I hope a counseler can help you find your way out of this pain. Much love to you, frog. AL will make things worse...in the short run and the long run. Kriger
                "People usually fail when they are on the verge of success. So give as much care to the end as to the beginning." Lao-Tzu

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                  #23
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                  Frogzter,

                  I understand where you are coming from - having been thru the same mis-information campaign that has been thrust upon us. My first thought is definitely couseling, but, perhaps maybe you could take this pain and do everything in your power to keep it from happening even more. Use your energy to educate and inform. Like the Adam Walsh story - his dad took their horrendous pain and turned it into Americas Most Wanted - thousands of criminals have been captured and the result is probably thousands of lives saved. Plus they have Code Adam which helps kids in stores who are lost. It won't erase your pain but, it may ease it knowing you stopped someone else from going through it.

                  We seriously never hear of these stories - but they are out there.

                  We have all made mistakes and you are welcomed and loved here.

                  :h

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                    #24
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                    Frogzter.......I won't let you die. Together we'll find a way through this, ok? You are not lost and alone anymore!!!

                    It won't be feeling to you that it will be that way forever anymore!

                    You are one brave lady!!!!!!!!!
                    Noelle sez "Do want you like, like what you do. Life is Good."

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                      #25
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                      Oh Hun - what words describe? Most people on this site have so many of lifes worst experiences that have shaped who they have become today - not always for the better, that's why we are all here for each other, trying to help each other and ourselves, in any possible way. I regret so many choices that I made in the past, many that haunt my everyday thoughts, which have contibuted to an excessive drinking problem. From that - so many more stupid mistakes that have shaped peoples opinions of me, which I feel is so unfair, and downright wrong - but I suppose thats what they've got to go on. I hope you find some rest from your demons, and I feel what I am saying to you also applies to me - but you don't seem to take much notice of your own reason do you? We can't change what has happened, or what we've done. We must learn to move on and recognise our good qualities and turn our lives around, to be able to make some sense out of our lives. For everything a reason. Perhaps we could use our suffering to help others in a similar plight? Whatever, good luck babes, in my prayers. Noodle x

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                        #26
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                        Frog:

                        I too had an abortion years ago that I regret to this very day. Had I known then what I know now, I would have had that baby and given it up for adoption. How do I live with the fact that I robbed myself of the one chance I was ever going to have to be a mother?

                        I mourn and let go. Sure, I think about it and when I do I mourn and I let go. Otherwise, I would go insane.

                        If you ever need to PM me and further discuss it, please do.

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                          #27
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                          All I can say is you have had a horrible experience and now you possess the knowledge of something in which you may use to help someone who is in that same unfortunate situation. If you can somehow help someone you may also be able to help heal yourself.

                          Everything I need is within me!

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                            #28
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                            Dear Frogzter,

                            This is the 1st time I'm posting anything. You pushed me over the top... thank you, please know we're here for you, me personally, & please be good to yourself. We all do the best we can in our youth. 24 years ago, something similar. Oddly, that was the 1st time long ago that I first knew someone who had an alcohol problem, & major at that. (The almost Dad. Helicopter Vietnam vet, major love affair w/ great families, etc.)
                            Alcoholic/PSD was that lesson.. innocent girl then, wow, how it comes together, now. My first drinking buddy.
                            Frogz, I share & shed my tears with you... thank you for gently touching & sharing that most serious of memories. It's so brave that you did that.
                            (As other members suggest, counseling can be great & enlightening! It's really helped me, especially when you want to evolve, & integrate the past into a greater good right now.)
                            Hope I'm not rambling too much,
                            Much Love,
                            My Gatha

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