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    I would like to start my story by telling you that I am a primary care physician. A doctor of family medicine. A lot of what I have experienced has been very much affected by that. I am a young one too, whereby young means in my early thirties.

    A lot of what I have read of your stories I recognize as having experienced myself.
    I was born into a family of, to be direct, alcohol abusers and addicts. Alcohol was an ever present companion, and then dictator at every family event or celebration, and every single dinner I can remember. I do not remember ever having seen my parents or my aunts, uncles and other relatives drink a non-alcoholic beverage after tea and coffee were done with at breakfast or at work. I remember as a child marveling that adults simply do not drink fizzy drinks or water or anything else but alcohol. I shocked myself recently by realizing that reality as I knew it was: adults only drink alcohol, tea and coffee. That was just the way it was.

    I believe both as a person who has a problem with alcohol, and also as a practitioner, that the world which our parents create for us in infancy creates in us lasting ?truths? about how we believe the world functions. It has been proven that children will grow to mimic the attitudes to alcohol they silently witness in their parents.

    I saw my mother drinking cordial only this year as she was thirsty from working, and I was struck dumb, when I realized I still, as an adult and a doctor held a firm and unshakable belief that my parents only drink tea or alcohol. The foundations for that childlike belief were so concrete, they existed in me still.

    For myself, I had always been allowed to drink alcohol as a teenager by my parents, and had been drunk at some high school parties. Looking back on that time, I can reflect that it was a sign of ?coolness? for a parent to supply young teenagers with alcohol for their parties. It was certainly cool to be the kid of the ?cool folks?. We were allowed to experiment. Which means we were allowed to try out binge drinking.

    Having said that, those times were infrequent and my dedication to learning and achievement was much greater than any call to drink.

    I would like to add at this point however, that a perfectionist or highly achieving personality is actually recognized as a significant risk factor for not only substance abuse as an adult, but anxiety and depression also. Sigh.

    Following high school I lived independently of my parents, more or less on the poverty line, and worked hard to get through medical school. I had seen in my parents, that the first thing to do, when stressed or hurt or upset or angry or any high emotional state, was to ?have a drink?, and so I did. I started to use alcohol in that manner to curtail my own very painful emotions at that time. A beloved relative was almost lost through excessive drinking around that time, and that had a good effect on me- to curb my own behavior a bit, and try not to get to stuck in to heavy drinking.

    However, it was not really my own reflections or good sense that really kept things at bay during medical school, if I were to be brutally truthful. It was the dedication to study, and the prodigious effort it took (I matriculated with first class honours, I remain proud to say) to do medicine that kept me too occupied to really drink to excess. And very importantly: I could not fund an alcohol problem, I had next to no money.

    My internship was probably the worst year of my entire life. All the terrible things you think interns go through, they do. I started to earn, and so I started to drink that year far too much. I was also socializing in a set who, by their own excesses, ?normalized? my dangerous drinking. Having a partner in crime is a very dangerous state of affairs. Having a whole group of them even more so. You are never without a drinking companion. We drank to ridiculous levels that year. I was still quite young, and my body did not punish me for it in the usual ways, more?s the pity. I was limited of insight, and turning two very blind (pardon the pun) eyes to the situation. And besides, it seemed to be helping me ?cope? with the internship. I deserved to ?let my hair down?. I was living it up after 6 years of sacrifice. Oh brother, I could write a book of excuses.

    But there was a significant underlying problem which emerged in great, unprecedented force, and which was driving the drinking on the nights off. I had developed the full blown anxiety disorder I was probably always destined to develop, I was a raving insomniac (due to the stress and fear and anxiety of taking on the responsibility of being a doctor) and I developed depression.

    I also received no support whatsoever. I had no caring helping hand reach out to me, for various sad reasons. I was in deep trouble, but as help never came, I did what most ambitious, disciplined and determined people like me would do: I just got on with it and kept going.

    I kept working, and the following year I did actually drink significantly less.
    I entered a specialist training program for Family Medicine a few years later, and the pure drive to do well in that and pass the exams kept me on a less over-the-top path, but I still studied every night after work to the tune of at least two scotches and coke. I still lived it up at the weekend. Sometimes a lot sometimes more moderately, but still, more than what is OK or safe to do.

    I still battle anxiety and depression. But I work very effectively and am very dedicated to my job, and take it very seriously. I have called in sick on a few occasions in my life due to excessive drinking.

    I achieved a very high result in my specialist exams. I now have more support and family love than I had in the past.

    Clearly, you would be asking at this stag if I sought help?

    Yes, as a matter of fact I did. And the response I received from members of my own profession when I finally after all that time, took my heart in my throat and asked for help- that I was suffering very significant anxiety, depression and insomnia, which I was medicating with alcohol was ? it was one of the lowest moments of my entire life.
    The first doctor I consulted looked at me and said: ?Yeah so your depressed, your anxious, what medication do you want? You can choose. Why did you come here you could have just taken some samples from the cupboard and given them a try?. She then went on to list all her own troubles. She didn?t even ask me what symptoms I had. She didn?t ask me a single thing.

    And I did choose my own drug. God knows what she would have done to me had I not already known what medication would be a suitable choice.

    I cried and cried and cried. I had finally taken the plunge, I had been so brave. It was a train wreck. So I referred myself to a psychologist.

    After a while I did try out 2 other doctors. Their evident, blatant discomfort at having to acknowledge that ?one of their own? was in need of help seemed just too much. I was humiliated. I have since given the whole idea away, I manage things myself, and just attend random doctors when I need repeat scripts.

    The ?stiff upper lip? attitude of doctors to their own, and the crazy notion that we don?t get sick, or if we do, for God?s sake keep quiet, for me has been a very bitter pill to swallow, particularly as I help those in need all day, all my life, and cannot get the same help and kindness when finally I put up my hand and ask for it.

    I have read the literature on Topamax and hypnotherapy, and yes, it works. Evidence says it really does have a beneficial role to play. No-one seems to want to talk to me long enough to prescribe it. (Can there be doctors that truly awful out there? Seems so..)

    My current situation is this: I don?t actually drink every day. I drink maybe 3-4 days a week, sometimes less, actually. Many times I will have no more than 3 glasses of wine. But. But sometimes, when the built up emotion decides to come out, I will have nights whereby if I have one drink, I will not stop until the bottle of wine is empty. And that bothers me. Sometimes I can drink a bottle and a half. And my body, my poor psyche, my self esteem absolutely detest it.

    I would like to abstain for a time. And then I would like to drink in very humble quantities and never ever experience ?drunk? again. When I am drunk, and I am emotional, I am a belligerent, over the top, attention needing, forceful, think-without-speaking, prone to crying, too loud, boor. It is so different to the sober me, who?s really OK, in many ways.

    Before closing, my final comment would be this:
    I have read that so many of you all have loving family, partners, children to be your companions and allies and to help keep you from being lonely.
    I live alone, have done for a long time. I do have a very supportive mother and best friend, but I am otherwise doing this on my own. I do honestly believe that aside from the great tension of my work, being truly alone, being truly lonely, is a great risk to a person trying to beat the demon drink.

    And yet, I do believe I will get there.

    #2
    Finally brave enough to be truthful

    You have found us, so you never need to be alone again.We are all in this together to support each others goals...many of us come from terribly abusive backgrounds and know how hard life can be..Unfortunately life doesn't have a rewind button so there is no changing the past.You can learn how to change the way that you think of the past and then it will affect you differently.Have you tried hypnosis or EMDR ???Silva Mind control is a powerful tool. as well. These therapies helped me leave the past behind and then begin to be able to create the life that I want...Alcohol throws me back into self pity and emotional pain.Sobriety makes me feel in control of my future and has been extremely EMPOWERING..Stay close to this site.You will find great friends and support here..
    sigpicEyes on the PRIZE, a SOBER Future !!!

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      #3
      Finally brave enough to be truthful

      Thank you for taking the time to share your story with us! You are very welcome here!
      Listen for God's voice in everything you do, everywhere you go; He's the one who will keep you on track. Proverbs 3:6 The Message

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        #4
        Finally brave enough to be truthful

        It's Time -

        Thank you for sharing your story so openly. Much of what you write resonated for I too am a very high achiever although not in the medicsal world but the business world. The putting myself through colege, distance from my family, perfectionism, depression, anxiety etc.

        After many years of suffering and exiting my work, I finally sought help. Luckily my physician was wonderful. And after trying 3 counselors, my current one is amazing. My children have ralleid around and we are rebuilding our relationship slowly.

        Do stay here and continue to share. I'm happy to talk off line as well.

        My best.
        Happy to be AF Since 9.13.08

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          #5
          Finally brave enough to be truthful

          Well, I think you have been very brave telling us your story. Especially since the reactions you have had to date are not especially positive.
          Sometimes, you can be in a relatonship and still be lonely. And I think that problem drinking or alcoholism exacerbates that. So whatever our backgrounds or where we are right now, we understand the struggle that you are finding yourself in. The support I have found here has been nothing short of miraculous and without it I dont think I would have managed to stay away from alcohol and drugs for 3 months.
          Yes, I think you will get there too, your insight and I your determination will carry you through. I look forward to reading about your progress and getting to know you.

          PS my doctor told me to have a glass of wine and relax when I needed help for depression )
          Living now and not just existing since 9th July 2008
          Nicotine Free since 6th February 2009

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            #6
            Finally brave enough to be truthful

            Welcome It's Time. Come back, read often!!!
            Goal 1: Today
            Goal 2: Tomorrow

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              #7
              Finally brave enough to be truthful

              Thanks for sharing your story. Much of it I can relate to, especially the part about the family get-togethers where all of the adults drink alcohol. I am the youngest of five kids and alcohol played a role in my parent's problems - but most of us still drink!
              I, too, am over-achieving, etc., and definitely a perfectionist, so when I "fail" or feel that I have, then I'm REALLY hard on myself. I'm sure it was, and is, totally frustrating to try to confide in your peers only to feel worse, or like they didn't care.
              People definitley care here, and understand. So many similarities and people facing the same challenges.
              You have a plan and a goal, and if you hang around here, you will find great support and understanding.
              Keep sticking to you goal and you can do it. Let us know how we can help!
              Welcome!

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                #8
                Finally brave enough to be truthful

                Welcome, Time. I'm sure you're not surprised that your story resonates so, with so many of us. I, too, did my professional training and qualifications, both in law and later in clinical psychology, while drinking WAY too much, and with much anxiety and depression (the mood and anxiety symptoms both "medicated" and exacerbated by the alcohol) along the way.

                I'm sad but not surprised that your attempt to get medical help for the problems turned out the way it did. I imagine that there are physicians out there who WOULD be able to be genuinely helpful to a colleague-as-patient, but they would be hard to find. That's true in clinical psychology, as well. It leaves us much more on our own than we should be, ironic since we tend to be people who feel driven to fix things on our own, anyway.

                But you've taken a wonderful step by coming here! Please keep us posted! The support that you can get here is a large part in the recovery process; I'd be willing to bet that it is at least as effective as any of the medications. Taking the time to get online, do some posting and reading, getting to know some people here and forming relationships with them (which helps us to be accountable for our behavior; doing it totally solo leaves way too much room for rationalization and self-deception) is extremely helpful. For many, including myself, I believe it is essential.

                best wishes,

                wip

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                  #9
                  Finally brave enough to be truthful

                  Hello It's time.

                  :welcome:

                  Thank you for sharing your story. If you haven't yet, you should read My Way Out. It really works for a lot of us!
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                  AF since September 28, 2008
                  DrunkFree since June 1, 2008
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                  :wings: In memory of MDbiker aka Bear.
                  5/4/2010 In loving memory of MaryAnne. I pray you've found peace my friend.
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                    #10
                    Finally brave enough to be truthful

                    Welcome, welcome, welcome!!

                    As you can see there are many of us who can relate to your story or parts of it.

                    I was a mess when I joined 5 months ago. I read the book, got the supps and found myself an awesome (female) GP who prescribed the Topa although she had never used it before for AL after showing her the book and programme she was willing to try and has been one of my biggest supporters.

                    Topa worked really well for me, I went mod for a couple of months and then, without Topa did 2 months AF. I feel my journey has made me stronger and openend up my eyes to so many personal issues which is a daily hurdle, but oh so worth while.

                    Thank you for sharing your story.
                    "The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it"

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                      #11
                      Finally brave enough to be truthful

                      Its Time,

                      :welcome:

                      You mentioned the Topamax and hypnotherapy. I know my doctor prescribed the Topamax for me after I showed her the MWO literature and the Lancet Article. She was very happy to try it.

                      She told me Topamax is also used as a mood stabilizer. I am sure you know much more than I do about that.

                      Unfortunately, I am allergic to it.

                      Are you going to try Topamax and hypnotherapy? It sounds like a very good option for you. I hope you have read the MWO book. It is inexpensive and has a lot of good information in it. RJ did do a huge amount of research.

                      I wish you much success with whatever path you are going to choose. I am very sorry you did not get the support you needed from your doctor friends. That is very rough and I imagine the experience was humiliating.

                      As for being alone. I guess that has been your choice in life but it can be difficult not to have a loving supporting group around you, especially when you are going through rough times personally.

                      You will find that we are very supportive here and will give you as much as you need. But, I have also found it helpful for me personally to go to AA. The human contact is valuable. We do have doctors and nurses in our meetings, btw. They come in their scrubs. :-)

                      Again, I wish you the very best success.

                      Anytime you need help, post a question, or you are welcome to pm me. I will answer as soon as I can.

                      Cindi
                      AF April 9, 2016

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                        #12
                        Finally brave enough to be truthful

                        (((It's Time))))

                        Yes, thank you for sharing your story. And you are right, it's time. Okay, you have read about Topomax and probably know about Campral. So if you don't want to go to a doc, there are some sources wherein you can order the meds online.

                        Good look and keep reading/posting we are very supportive of each other. :l

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                          #13
                          Finally brave enough to be truthful

                          Welcome, Time. You mentioned the lonliness. Alcoholics and problem drinkers are all alone, even in a crowd. But here there is hope, there are friends, there is acceptance. We come from all walks of life. My daughter is a CNM, and a doctor friend of hers recently spent time in rehab. It was very hush hush because of possible liabilities. We all face stigmas out there in the world, but I am so sorry about your experiences with your peers. There is someone out there who will listen to you, but I understand your reluctance to get let down again. I have been amazed at the people who are in the health care profession who have developed addicition problems. I was in rehab with 3 nurses. I was in an AA group with a local Primary Care Physician. Your experiences will surely make you a more caring, attentive dr.because you have seen both sides now. Check out the other sites, join the subscribers group for even more anonymity. You will find a friend here at any hour (they may be in New Zealand or Australia, but that's even better!) Come up to the AF army thread. We have a ball, but it's all about seriousness when someone needs help. I fell HARD off the wagon recently, and they opened their blessed PC arms to me when I confessed my mistake. You will find the right group for you somewhere here. WARNING: MOW can be addictive! It's a good habit tho. We're a family here, and you'll fit right in. I was scared to talk to my doc about topa since he's a bit arrogant, but had WONDERFUL talk w/him yesterday and I start today! You can PM me anytime you're feeling alone or tempted. Welcome!!
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                            #14
                            Finally brave enough to be truthful

                            Hi

                            I feel like I can relate to a lot of what you have written, mostly the self-medicating for loneliness/anxiety/depression and the fact that you are functional but still know you have a problem.

                            Years ago, someone at a counseling program asked me what's so bad about loneliness? I really didn't know what she could mean by that. Of course everything is wrong with it! It's unbearable. I really have a different view of that now. It actually is bearable. And probably there are reasons, like self-esteem related, that you are alone in the first place.

                            Take it from me, what you need to do is just face the loneliness sober. Make a rule to yourself that you are not going to drink for that. I have decided that and now only drink socially. You find your depression lifts and you get stronger in dealing with being alone.

                            The reason it may be painful now is that you might not have a good relationship with yourself, well that was true for me. So of course it is going to be unbearable. A good psychologist and some meditation every day, even 5-10 minutes, can help with this. Check out also the book recommended by Work in Progress, Called Mindful Way Through Depression.

                            Yes, having ties is important. But you need to mend your relationship with your own self, that can make it easier to have ties with other people and feel less alienated. Get to know all those painful feelings and learn how to soothe them. Everything in life gets better when you are on your own side and can provide self-comfort without alcohol.

                            Good luck
                            Nancy

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                              #15
                              Finally brave enough to be truthful

                              I appreciate your honesty and openess. Being in the medical field and seeing your colleagues still seem so uneducated about this issue must be astounding. I hope you will stick around and let us know what is working for you.
                              I'm really easy to get along with once people learn to worship me

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