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    Hello. It's around 4:30am and I can't sleep because I'm not quite drunk enough yet. Drinking is becoming an increasing problem in my life, and I know it's a problem. I'm 26 years old and I feel like an old man... constantly exhausted, constantly battling a cold, constantly feeling sore, constantly invisioning drinking enough that I can drift off into nothingness. But it wasn't always this way.

    I grew up the last child in a devout Catholic family. We never had much, but I always had love and support from my family. In my early years, I excelled in sports and academics, but had a difficult time making friends. Around my sophomore year of high school, I decided to become my own person and I got into music. I taught myself to play an instrument and joined a band. By my senior year of high school, I was having the best time of my life... playing music, expressing myself, and breaking free from the mold that I thought I was cast in.

    Around the same time, I stopped attending church and told my family that I did not believe in God. They took it very hard, but I couldn't lie to myself any longer. During this time, I also started to drink a bit. I never drank socially, because I was not one to go to parties (nor would I even be allowed to go to them). I would drink in my room alone late at night (a trend that continues). I would also smoke marijuana each night. This escalated into a bigger drug problem in college.

    Though I'm not on any illegal drugs currently, nor do I crave them, alcohol is the one thing I cannot kick.

    After a D.U.I. in college and a series of terrible fights with my then-girlfriend, I attended some A.A. meetings. I had trouble with them, because I do not believe in God or a higher power, but the meetings kept me honest, and low and behold my last trimester of college I was completely sober. I made it around 4-5 months.

    One night the summer after I graduated, I went out with an old college friend of mine. We went to some sort of a festival. He left me with his friend (who I didn't really know) to look for his girlfriend. Confronted with bordom, he suggested we hit the beer tent. At first I was reluctant, but I figured that I had the problem licked. I was wrong. The minute that cheap carnival beer hit my tongue, I started a binge that lasts to this day, almost 5 years later.

    I need to find help soon, because if I don't alcohol will kill me one way or another. I currently work 70+ hours per week just to stay out of foreclosure, so going away to some treatment center for 3 months is not an option. I'm wondering if there is some sort of drug or support group (specifically for Athiests) that I can join. I cannot do this on my own and I have nobody to help me. I cannot go to my family for help on this one (trust me), and the woman that I thought I was going to marry left me about 5 months ago. My friends ALL drink heavily and have all heard me say "I'm done drinking" time and time again, only to catch me at the bar after a few days or weeks of being sober. I've cried "wolf" too many times. I need something more.

    Please help me.

    #2
    Athiest Looking for Help

    hello

    I can relate to your story. I'm a 29 year old male that doesn't believe in much of anything except truth. I've been drinking at the very least a 12 pack of natural light daily for the past 8 years or more; sometimes exceed a 30 pack a day. It's starting to be a routine I'm tired of. Lately, I've decided to focus on repairing my house and vehicles in my spare time to help get my mind off of drinking; and it has helped. I have quit for small lengths of time before, but I feel like I really want to change a few things in my life; I'm nearly 30 now. The earlier we start changing and getting healthier, the better. So I don't get overwhelmed, I cut back recently. I've also started eating a little better. No drastic changes, just a gradual path back to what I KNOW I should be doing health-wise. I don't plan on drinking at all for the month of january. I will also excercise and eat right. Once you lower your tolerance and start feeling a little better, you have to fill the time spent drinking before with more positive things that will help move your life forward. No matter how small they may be. Money saved by not drinking can help fund more productive things. We don't have to believe in a god to have common sense and know what is healthier for us. Focus on hobbies and productivity. That's what has been helping me. Best of luck, and never feel guilty about not believing. Being skeptical is wise. Especially after you live a few years and look around.

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      #3
      Athiest Looking for Help

      Loud and John,

      :welcome:

      First of all, MWO is a good support community. At least I think so.

      If you can, download the book and read about RJ's path. She started out with the plan to moderate and was successful, although I believe she may be abstinent now. Something I heard somewhere.

      However, the book is filled with much advice and information on nutrition, vitamins, supplements, etc.

      Many here use the program, many tailor the program to their needs, and yet others simply use this forum.

      Other support groups are Smart Recovery and Rational Recovery. You may want to check them out. I believe Smart Recovery has some face-to-face meetings in areas.

      On MWO, our members are Christians, Jews, Hindus, Spiritualists, atheists, agnostics, etc. We respect each other's religious beliefs and try to only post religious based things in the "What We Believe" forum. We never attack the beliefs of one other regarding religion.

      However, we do try very hard to support each other in staying sober.

      Glad you are here and I wish you much success in your journey to freedom from alcohol (either moderate of abstinent, your choice) and good health.

      Cindi
      AF April 9, 2016

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        #4
        Athiest Looking for Help

        :welcome:To MWO!

        I think Cindi said it all pretty well!
        Jump in and find your spot!!

        Nancy
        "Be still and know that I am God"

        Psalm 46:10

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          #5
          Athiest Looking for Help

          Loud, theirs plenty of room (even though it does'nt look like it Ha!) on our "big Comfy Couch"; find a spot ! IAD
          ?Be who you are and say what you feel because
          those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.?
          Dr. Seuss

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            #6
            Athiest Looking for Help

            Welcome to MWO!!!
            Listen for God's voice in everything you do, everywhere you go; He's the one who will keep you on track. Proverbs 3:6 The Message

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              #7
              Athiest Looking for Help

              Hi Loud Goat and john.

              Your stories are very touching.......you are so very young.......most of us here are older. Please don`t despair........there is a way out......coming here is a good place to start. There is a spiritual board here, and there are people of all creeds or none here.......everyone is welcome.

              I hope you both find your way out sooner rather than later........so many of us have so many wasted years behind us. Life is for living, not for stumbling through, comfortably numb.

              My best to you both.

              Star x
              Formerly known as Starlight Impress.

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                #8
                Athiest Looking for Help

                Welcome to mwo ... it looks like you two have even found a support network with each other .... everyone is welcome here ...
                ?We are one another's angels?
                Sober since 29/04/2007

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                  #9
                  Athiest Looking for Help

                  Welcome Loud and John
                  I would say exactly what Cinders said, and I have heard very good things about the Smart Recovery site. I think that I will check it out myself. It is great to get sober at your age. I was sober from the age of 28-39. I accomplished much in those 10 years. What happened from there is a long story for another time, but I have had a good deal of AF time since following this program. No Higher power, No problem. We are from all different backgrounds here, and respect each others beliefs. I look forward to getting to know you both.
                  "Decide-Which Voice in Your Head you Can Keep Alive" (Shinedown)

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                    #10
                    Athiest Looking for Help

                    Loud goat and John welcome to MWO. I am fairly new here but I will repeat what I have seen told to so many who stumble through these portals, make a plan. You will find some really great planning tools in the Toolbox thread in the Monthly Abstinence forum. Also there is a thread called the Newbie's Nest and One Day at a Time in the Just Starting Out area. Lots of tools and support here to make use of. Best of luck on your journey I hope you are able to find what you are looking for.
                    vegan zombies want your grains

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                      #11
                      Athiest Looking for Help

                      I would also like to welcome you. Everyone is welcome here.
                      Forever loved, forever missed Papa Bear

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                        #12
                        Athiest Looking for Help

                        Guys,

                        I would continue looking around this site and posting here. There are lots of people who have struggled and chosen to be alcohol free or to moderate. Many have found their own unique way of doing this.

                        Also, check out the SMART recovery web-site. It is a nonreligion based alternative to AA. There are also local SMART recovery meetings. I would also suggest the book "Rational Recovery" by Jack Trimpley.
                        AF Since April 20, 2008
                        4 Years!!!
                        :lilheart:

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                          #13
                          Athiest Looking for Help

                          Loud - Welcome, and welcome to John too.

                          Loud, I hear you say the drink will kill you. I hear you then say you cannot afford 3 months off work to do treatment. I believe you need education about your disease, which is what I believe alcoholism is. You may well be getting to the stage where treatment is very necessary in order to stay alive. Chronic alcoholism is a fatal disease.

                          You say AA helped keep you sober for 5 months? Believing in a Higher Power is good, but not essential. When I first started attending AA 15 years or so ago, I heard that a good way to start is by making your meetings your HP. Worked for me and still does. I am active in AA/NA and MWO. THese three methods, especially trying to work the 12-steps in all areas of my life ( and I emphasise TRYING, as we claim progress not perfection) have kept me not just clean and sober, but serenely so. GOD can be rephrased as "G"ood "O"rderly "D"irection.

                          All the very best! Keep posting.
                          *Serenity is the calm WITHIN the storm*

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                            #14
                            Athiest Looking for Help

                            Welcome to you both! You've gotten such good advice here, from people I know I have come very much to respect. Change is not a hope, or a dream, but a purpose, a plan, and work every day of our lives to be the best person THAT day we can be. We have nothing more than today. As far as God, or spirituality go, I define them differently than religion, but that's not what this site is about. To me that aspect is as personal as the thoughts that run thru our heads or the feelings that we have. Spirituality helps many people, but if it's not for you there are so many other ways to learn and recover. We are here, not to judge, convert, teach, but support you if YOU want this badly enough to put in the work.
                            I personally hope you do. I wish at your age I had put down AL forever. I can't change my past, but you can change your future.
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                            awprint: RUBY Imagine yourself doing What you love and loving What you do, Being happy From the inside Out, experiencing your Dreams wide awake, Being creative, being Unique, being you - changing things to the way YOU know they can BE - Living the Life you Always imagined.awprint:

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                              #15
                              Athiest Looking for Help

                              Loud Goat, you should let your friends know you will not be spending time with them for a while. Being around people who drink heavily or lightly cannot be good for you. Try to stay away, until you feel better. I understand the Athiest part, a lot of people find their way with spiritual help, but it is not for everyone. Stay here and you will find help. Good luck

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