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[Vodkaweekness]

Athiest Looking for Help

Hey Loud -
Just joined about 20 mins ago, and what made me join was reading the situations other people deal with. It's not as 'thats me!' when you read people say "oh ya, used to drink, and then....etc" and launch then their recorvery process. But to realize what someones drinking habits are/were, well, it makes it more real for me. I so applaud that you are looking for something non-church related! And have taken some of the advise from the previous posts...but you are right, too many people use AA as the 'must do'. I am not an atheist, but more an agnostic (BTW raised & confirmed as a catholic) but totally understand your need for a group that is not based in religion.

Good luck to you! You sound like you have found the right path!! (^_^)

[Loud Goat LS2]

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Waiting for his way out;490143 wrote: Loud Goat, you should let your friends know you will not be spending time with them for a while. Being around people who drink heavily or lightly cannot be good for you. Try to stay away, until you feel better. I understand the Athiest part, a lot of people find their way with spiritual help, but it is not for everyone. Stay here and you will find help. Good luck

Thank you, but I do not know anybody that does not binge drink.

[Waiting for his way out]

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It is time to find new friends?? The binge drinkers will only take you down. Maybe you can go back to them later when you are better.

[Lila]

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LG
I read your post...I can't help but wonder if you have processed your feelings about religion; somehow leaving your religion has coincided with drugs and alcohol. Are you really an atheist? It is more than fine with me if you are, but most people don't lead with a label. I hope I am not out of turn for saying that. If you can get some kind of therapy, talk therapy it may help, or if you want to process your feelings about that here, it just seems to me there is a conflict there that is not resolved. There are really ALL kinds of people here, so it does not matter.
Whatever may be helpful here, there is tons of great advice, information and wisdom here.
Welcome, and again, I am sorry if I read this all wrong.
Lila

[retteacher]

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Loud: If you come to MWO each & every day, you'll find the help you need. You don't need a particular belief system. All you need is rigorous honesty, both w/the MWO members & yourself. Mary

PS: Good luck

[Loud Goat LS2]

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I know this is an old thread, but I'm going to my doc on Wed for Naltrexone. The Sinclair method seems interesting.

[gyco]

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wow

rubywillow;489862 wrote: Welcome to you both! You've gotten such good advice here, from people I know I have come very much to respect. Change is not a hope, or a dream, but a purpose, a plan, and work every day of our lives to be the best person THAT day we can be. We have nothing more than today. As far as God, or spirituality go, I define them differently than religion, but that's not what this site is about. To me that aspect is as personal as the thoughts that run thru our heads or the feelings that we have. Spirituality helps many people, but if it's not for you there are so many other ways to learn and recover. We are here, not to judge, convert, teach, but support you if YOU want this badly enough to put in the work.
I personally hope you do. I wish at your age I had put down AL forever. I can't change my past, but you can change your future.

wow ive never heard it said better,your so young and realise you have a problem,as many said there are many ways to combat against this so called evil presence in all of our life's,all i can add is ,here , theres no such a thing as failure , i do wish you well, as my wife says ? if it works use it ,dont lose it ,the site, gyco

[Beaches]

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Loud glad to see that you checked back in and welcome back. We are all here for the same reason...we have a problem with alcohol and that's the bottom line. There are some Naltrexone threads that have started if you want to check them out in the Topamax, Campral, Naltrexone....etc Forum here. Best of luck to you and remember we're all here for you.

[5thaday]

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I hear you man. I'm also turned off by a lot of the typical support out there that is faith-based. As a fellow atheist, I can say that I have received solid support chatting with people here. Although I still drink, during my successful bouts of short-term abstinence I regularly talked to people here, and did not encounter overt religiosity, even among believers. No one attempted to convert me, and everyone was very respectful and non-judgmental about my lack of faith. I can say with assurace that just signing into chat and talking with others prevented me from picking up a bottle on numerous occasions. So perhaps you should give that a try? Remember, this is not AA, so you won't have the higher power panacea shoved down your thoat (no offense to any AAers here, I know you're not all like that). What you will find, however, are decent, non-judgmental people who like us have overindulged in alcohol for a long time and want to do something about it. But whatever you do, don't shut yourself away. Talking can help. I'm not one for group discussions or revealing my problems to others, but I've received much prudent advice from some truly caring people here. Hang in there man.

[Loud Goat LS2]

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Update

I've been on Naltrexone for less than a month and there is a noticable difference. I crave alcohol much less and the end of the night comes much, much sooner. I'm half way through my first Naltrexone perscription. The cost for 30 pills? $6. The cost for a month of rehab? $20,000. AA? Your soul.

I think I'll be sticking with the Naltrexone.

[Theme2be]

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Dear friend~

Welcome to your precious heart.

This is a different gathering, I can share. These are human beings that represent a belief in "Good".
I believe their is a goodness in us and it is hince forth and forevermore under attack by something of the opposite.

Do you believe in Love? Whatever your interpretation of that word is, it is present here.
It has many values, such as kindness during your suffering, understanding in the midst of your crisis, wise counsel in the time of your confusions. Do you believe in compassion? Whatever your interpretation of that word is, it is a welcoming friend and companion here.
You are surrounded with friendship from kindred spirits smitten with the disorder of alcoholism.
It has taken me a time to the realization of the depths this disorder can terrorize.
I have lived it and am still waking up from it.
But, their is an awarness today, I can assure you that awaits you tomorrow in your search.

Best of "wishes" during your quest for freedom~
Freedom has many different systems of beliefs to be attained, but, all ultimately lead to life amongst the living.
May you breathe a sigh of relief to know, you are now never alone , as you so choose~

[DriftyAlison0]

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Every time I got drunk I said that it would be the last time. And then I would slip. I just finally said I am done and meant it the next morning. I am 22. But unlike you, I am a religious person and faith is playing a big role in my quitting drinking and smoking for that matter.

[puddytat]

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AL's not getting your goat!

Theme, what a great description, " we believe in 'Good' always enjoy your posts.

Goat, glad Nal is working - thanks for update.

I too am an atheist, and my biggest bug-a-boo is dealing with "religiosity". Spirituality - an awareness of something beyond ego and Earth -- no problem with that. But struggle with over-zealousness, judgmental preachiness, and how bad elements hide under the guise of organized religion. It's a "trigger" -- AA can definitely drive me to drink.

Best wishes

[Loud Goat LS2]

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Yeah... went to Catholic school K though high school then a lutheran college. I guess I just know too much about it to believe. To me, God is just the next rational step beyond the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, and Santa Clause. The difference being that most adults still seem to believe in the first one.

I'll take a proven opiod inhibitor over an invisible man anyway

[Loud Goat LS2]

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Just wanted to give everybody an update. I've been sober for 31 days, and the last month or 2 on Naltrexone I did not really even want to drink nor did I have a good time when I did drink since I was not getting any endorphins from it. Looking back on my first post of this thread, I can't believe how I started in such a completely helpless state and now feel completely empowered as I no longer have any desire to drink. So for those of you out there who do not want to feel "powerless" over alcohol, surrender to a "higher power," "God," Santa Clause or the Tooth Fairy, don't want to spend $20,000 for detox and rehab that doesn't work, and don't want to sit around a cicle of a bunch of people with broken lives that are constantly crying and relapsing, then Naltrexone is for you. Take it an hour before you drink, and in 3-5 months you'll be able to move on with your life without alcohol. No god, no $, no BS.

- Goat