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    Hi Everyone,
    I have never posted anything before but here it goes. I am a 48 year old emergency medicine physician. I remember the days when I did not drink alcohol almost everyday, but that has been a very long time, about 10 years. I have never had a DUI, have never been under any kind of influence while working, have never missed work due to my drinking. I am successful financially, and professionally, and I am very happy in my 24 year marriage. However, over the last 10 years of so, my alcohol consumption has become a daily event. When we moved here, I became friends with many of the parents of my children as they progressed through parochial school. Unfortunately, this has been an environment that tends to support, and facilitate the fusion of alcohol consumption with social activities. This started out just being a one night a week "Thirsty Thursday" with the "boys". I have a stressful job, as anyone can imagine, so this was a good way to have male camraderie and blow off steam. Before I knew it, it was "Freaky Friday", "Sleazy Sundays", "Margarita Mondays" etc etc you get the idea. At times, this led to risky behavior, such as driving home with questionable sobriety among other things. Every party, cookout, fish fry.. you name it, alcohol was an integral part of it. What pains me to think about now is that all this is done in the presence of impressionable children whom we love dearly. Thus, my kids have grown up watching this. (My parents, and my wifes parents did not raise us in that atmosphere.. ). When my kids were in grade school, they would see me sit, watching TV most evenings and drink rum and coke until, many time, I spilled it on myself nodding off. (This is painful for me to say, I am very embarrassed about things like that). Despite all this, my kids are wonderful, and, thank god, they have not yet given me one ounce of problems other than typical teenage experimentation, and I've never seen them drunk or on drugs (and I would know most likely). I will say that I have never, until recently considered myself to have a "drinking problem". What really shocked me into realizing this, was when I tried to stop drinking after some elevation of my liver enzymes was picked up on routine lab screening. I am a little overweight, and this is probably due to a fatty liver, however, I have continued to drink for the last two years despite this, even though it could progress to cirrhosis (And, I fully know, and have treated many patients with end stage liver disease). I think I mangaged to not drink alcohol for three months at the most. Then a vacation came.. Boom! Back to the rum. My wife also has become wrapped up in this behavior as well, she herself drinks with me in the evenings and on weekends, at parties and social events etc. She NEVER did this before, and this is also something for which I at least partially blame myself.

    You can imagine the stigma that is attached to any physician with any kind of percieved or actual problem drinking.. notice I have not been using the term "alcoholic". Usually the only way this would come into play is if a physician were drunk at work, or had problems with missed work due to hangovers etc, or had a DUI or other crimes. I will say that those flagrant alcohol abusers are in the minority. Most are like me. Highly functioning, problem drinkers that will never be identified or treated unless they have an "event" occur. Thus, I would never seek any kind of treatment for my problem drinking because of the ramifications it would entail, coupled with the archaic views of this problem (notice not using the term disease here). In my opinion leukemia is a disease. Problem drinking is a behavioral disorder that can result in disease (cirrhosis, liver failure, motor vehicle trauma etc).

    I am a firm adherent to evidence based treatment for any problem. I am not really interested in anything that involves self deprecation, or looking to a "Higher Power". As such, I have gravitated to doing alot of research about the Sinclair Method. Basically, the method involves the model that problem drinking results not from a disease, or moral weakness, but is a learned behavior based on neural pathways that have been established over time that alcohol produces a "reward" in the brain in the form of natural substances called endorphins. The drug Naltrexone blocks this reward, so that, over time, the brain "unlearns" the drive for alcohol consumption.

    I ordered a 90 day supply from canada (because I want no record of recieving that medicine in my profession), and just started taking it yesterday. I am planning on posting to the Sinclair thread periodically with updates. Last night, I only drank two glasses of wine and had no desire for any more. Normally, I would have drank at least half to three quarters of a bottle (with my wife drinking the balance). We would probably then switch to rum and cokes with "heavy pours" of the rum in mine, and a large glass. (I used to drink Bacardi 151, worried about the "calories" in beer). Imagine, I switched to hard liquor to be healthy. (HA HA). I did have some irritability after taking the medicine and a felt foggy headed, and a little nauseated, but this subsided largely as the evening progressed. Usually my pavlov's bell doesn't go off until 5 p.m., so we'll see what happens . I plan on only taking the medicine when I plan on consuming alcohol, otherwise I am not going to take it at all.

    Well that's about all for now. Tired fingers. (LOL):new:

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    Physician-Heal Thyself

    G'day ERDoc.

    I am an ER Nurse - tho we call them EDs down under rather than ERs. I fully understand your medical model re behavioural rather than disease theory. I too go along with that.

    I wish you well with your Sinclair Method. I hope you keep this thread alive with progress reports as I am rather interested in that. I started Naltrexone 1st November with the intention of abstinence. I had one lapse on New Year's Eve and polished off a bottle of 12% wine which is way under half what I would usually drink. And I really did not enjoy it. For that reason I may be a candidate for TSM but will need to discuss same with my GP.

    FeeBee.
    Abstinence from November 01 2009
    Relapse New Years Eve 2009
    Totally alcohol free since January 01 2010
    TSM from May 11 2010

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      #3
      Physician-Heal Thyself

      Thanks for your reply Fibejebe,

      We actually call them ED's here as well, but not many laypeople know about that abbreviation. I guess I am lucky because I can treat myself. Not many physicians would make it known to their PCP (also a colleague) about any concerns along the ETOH lines. (I certainly would NOT). There is alot of stigma in this country because of the view that it is somehow a weakness, or an incurable disease, and that you need abstinence (rehab,monitoring, public humiliation) first before any treatment.That is to say, it is viewed not as a continuum of behavior but you are an "alcoholic" (with all that entails), or not an alcoholic. I thought about going over to Australia for a year of so, I know you need EM physicians down there. I will keep you posted on my progress. Thanks again:thanks:

      P.S. Most primary care physicians here know little or nothing about alcohol treatment other than referring to someone else like AA or detox. I feel none of that is necessary for me. I think there's alot of folks in my category. I am not someone that anyone looking from the outside would view as an "alcoholic". Most of my social circle behaves and drinks as much or more than me!. This is why I really believe we must view this problem as a continuum. Good luck on your journey, and I to would like to hear more about your progress.

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        #4
        Physician-Heal Thyself

        Doctor on Board !!

        :welcome: ER DOC

        Thanks for posting your story. You're a much welcomed addition to this site with your research and insight. Looking forward to your progess. Best of luck to you !!
        Miss October :blinkylove:

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          #5
          Physician-Heal Thyself

          I ran across this thread regarding the Sinclair Method, it may be of some help to you. It is in the "Introduction & General Discussion" forum, under ""Topamax, Campral, Naltrexone, Baclofen, other meds", and the name of the thread is "Strictly Sinclair Method Weekly Thread". Good Luck!
          You can be who others think you should or who you were called to be. The difference is that who you were called to be is the real you.

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            #6
            Physician-Heal Thyself

            Hi ERDOC, I wish you the very best of luck, it is an amazing site, lots of very nice people who are here to help and support. Best of luck in your journey and one thing I will say, it is not easy even for problem drinkers to go completely AF as there are social events to think about, emotional moments and so on, should you fail and "just have the one" do not be ashamed or embarrassed to let us know, how can we pick you up if we don't know you are down?
            Mighty brave to tell your story, I have yet to tell mine which I am not yet brave enough to do.

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              #7
              Physician-Heal Thyself

              godschild;848387 wrote: I ran across this thread regarding the Sinclair Method, it may be of some help to you. It is in the "Introduction & General Discussion" forum, under ""Topamax, Campral, Naltrexone, Baclofen, other meds", and the name of the thread is "Strictly Sinclair Method Weekly Thread". Good Luck!
              Thanx!!!!:thanks:

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                #8
                Physician-Heal Thyself

                G'day Doc,

                Would be fabulous if you came Down Under for a year or so. Always vacancies in Emergency Medicine for any health professionals.

                I understand what you say about the stigma. I am terrified that my colleagues will find out. In fact each 5 years when I have to renew my practising certificate one of the questions asked is whether you have an addiction to illicit substances or alcohol. Yep .... I lie. Like yourself I was considered a high functioning drunk. I rarely started drinking before 1700hrs. I rarely missed a days work - maybe one a year only. I never had a DUI (tho that was no doubt good luck and not good management.) And my LFTs are normal despite having a liver resection secondary to a haemangioma back in 2002.

                I work as a nurse consultant in an ED mental health liaison position. I felt such a hypocrite tho counselling alcoholics in the ED when I was still drinking to excess myself. I have to admit that I have a lot more empathy with them than my colleagues tho and would spend the time necessary to get them into detox or arrange outpatient D&A services. But I would NEVER self disclose why.

                I am currently on Baclofen with the goal of abstinence. I have a good GP who has a special interest in addictions.

                I wish you well on your journey and look forward to reading more.
                FeeBee.
                Abstinence from November 01 2009
                Relapse New Years Eve 2009
                Totally alcohol free since January 01 2010
                TSM from May 11 2010

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                  #9
                  Physician-Heal Thyself

                  ERDOC, I always love to see people on this site with your unique insight. Thanks you so much for posting and good luck to you.

                  I am married to a physician who used to perform liver transplants and now does liver research. I would hate to think of what his collegues would think about my problem (even though many of them, as you say, drink more than I do) The problem seemed prevalent with my husband's collegues' wives. 2 of them wound up going into rehab (with no success), even though they behaved no differently than anyone in the group and the problem was a total surprise to me. It truly is a continuum.

                  I liked what you said about in this country it being all or nothing. You either are an alcoholic or not, and that most people in the field recommend a few days of detox ,
                  public acknowledgement (embarasment in my eyes) and a lifetime of meetings and surrender to a higher power. I also don't believe in the disease component... It is a learned behavior that has ingrained itself in our brain over time.

                  I hope that the medical profession comes up to the 21st century.

                  (funny as I am typing this I am watching the Today show and Laura Bush is talking about her book and how drinking was very much a part of the social culture in West Texas and everyone drank, it's just the way it was).... Most of them still functioned and had alot of success. (even the president of the United States, who just quit one day on his own) It truly is a continuum.

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                    #10
                    Physician-Heal Thyself

                    Variation on Sinclair Method

                    Hi all,
                    Well an update re: Naltrexone. I thought I would describe the exact experience since my first naltrexone pill in more detail. I am now on my 3rd alcohol free day since that one pill. I simply am able to overcome the craving to start drinking at 5 p.m.. I have been exercising alot. Went for a bike ride on a great, warm evening last night and was thinking to myself how great it was to be clear headed and not iunder alcohol influence watching TV at that time of night. I also feel rested, and hydrated. When I was drinking daily, I think I was always thirsty through the nite from the ETOH and therefore, not sleeping well ever.

                    To flesh out what it was like after the pill, I found that it basically made everything bland. I had a square of dark chocolate which is a tradition my wife and I have and it tasted like "wax", no joy in eating it like I usually do. (chocolate must release endorphins). Also, my wife was kind of tickling the back of my neck, which I enjoy very much normally, and it was more annoying than pleasurable.. All in all, not very pleasant to be like that. So, I have now decided to do a variation on the Sinclair method my myself. I plan on having the pills in reserve and still attempting abstinence. I will ONLY take the pill when the craving to drink is extremely strong, after which I WILL drink. I will then just try to fill my life with as much sustitute endorphin releasers as possible while remaining abstinent. (Exercise, petting my dogs, sex, heroin (just kidding about the heroin LOL).) I do not every want to take that naltrexone without drinking alcohol. (yuck).

                    We'll see how all this plays out, but it's working good so far. Yeah, it's only three days, but thats more than I have done in a long time.

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                      #11
                      Physician-Heal Thyself

                      Hello and Welcome Erdoc!

                      I am a nurse who is high functioning,with a young family!
                      I was 'introduced to AL-as a chill out-measure' by husband who is ex-defence forces and therefore an ex-heavy drinker! He now drinks light beer due to Gout (age 42yrs).He controls it VERY well, I will admit!

                      I grew up in a family that only ever had AL in the house if it was for special occasions, otherwise it was too expensive!

                      I met hubby and it was "in the household bar"! Always available, on tap...!
                      Needless to say, when I developed issues following my first born(iost Natal Depression), AL was how he helped me chill out! A an obvious result, I now seek it whenever I feel in need.

                      I think/believe that I have always had a tendency towards a 'complusive' personality,as when I was in my late teens/early twenties I was almost anorexic! So I think I have an addictive personality! (What would you say?)
                      When I suffered PND with my first & second child...well, I knew I had a problem and so am therefore on anti-D meds,however this does not stop me from drinking!
                      I KNOW it should! I wish it would! But...life throws curveballs at you........?
                      I know how you feel! I am not on anything other than Fish Oil tabs/Evening Primrose-prior to monthly cycle and the normal anti-D's! I've not as yet read the MWO book or ordered the supps.mainly for financial/relationship reasons.
                      All health and happiness to you!
                      Chook

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                        #12
                        Physician-Heal Thyself

                        Hello Chook,

                        I have been on NAL for 3 days and my experience has been the same as ERDOC's. It has changed the way I look at a glass of wine. It's Friday night and I am at the airport on the way home from a business trip. Sitting in the airport bar now, the wine is not even appealing to me. Before being on NAL, I would have gone through 2 glasses of wine in an hour. I can't even finish the first one now.

                        He's right about how everything tastes bland. It really does, but it works and I am so glad. I plan to be AF within a few days.

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                          #13
                          Physician-Heal Thyself

                          Hi ER doc, have you thought about baclofen for cravings? I'm curious as to your thoughts there?


                          ps- I've worked in health care for 15 years, it is my opinion that there are more closet alcoholics in our profession than in any other..... good for you for doing something about your own situation.

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                            #14
                            Physician-Heal Thyself

                            ER DOC,

                            Really appreciated your story and you keeping everyone appraised on progress with NAL. Like Chi, I would also like your take on Baclofen and Topamax as well for cravings based on the research you've completed. Thanks much, and good luck to you ERD!
                            Outside of a dog a book is mans best friend. Inside of a dog its too dark to read

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                              #15
                              Physician-Heal Thyself

                              Realitybites

                              Hi ERDoc,

                              I read with interest and complete agreement your post regarding alcoholism and problem drinking etc. I am a 33 year old irish woman and drinking has ruined the last ten years of my life leading me into all types of difficult situations and trauma. However I do not consider myself to have a "disease". My Mother had a disease. She died of cancer. I have used alcohol as a way of coping with clinical depression and traumatic life events. Alcohol is an addictive substance hence leading to addiction and overuse. Drugs are addictive and that is why people become addicts. However I do feel i have a genetic disposition to alcohol abuse considering much of my parents family have this problem. Also Ireland is a nation whose culture is largely based on this substance. There seems to be no way of getting away from it here! Unfortunate but true. But I am sure it is the same wherever you go to varying extents. AA is much too often forced upon us as the only real method of getting and staying sober. But I have found it to be so simplistic in its views. The whole higher power thing really bugs me. The only person who can stop us drinking is ourselves. I actually find it all to be quite depressing really. Being labelled as having an incurable disease might work for some people but it leaves me cold to be honest. I actually think it is a bit of a cop out. Good luck with everything:new:

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