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**paulywogg** · December 4, 2012, 08:22 PM

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hi problemdrinker,its a mess isnt it? iwas in the same boat as you for 7 years,drinking in the morning so i wouldnt shake so i could get ready for work,i drank at work,i drank driving home from work,came home and drank the nite away.Same cycle over and over,finding this site and taking the kudzu,tapering off the alcohol slowly to avoid withdrawals,eventually i was able to get stretches at least without booze.Im still not 100% yet,however i see a lite at the end of the tunnel,i know you may feel helpless right now,but you can take some baby steps to quit and make your life better for you and your girl.Welcome and keep posting,and know your not alone at all.

**Alcoholic** · December 4, 2012, 08:27 PM

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Hi, problem drinker:

You will be surprised that many people will read and comment on your post. We all will want to help you. We all have our stories and have been there and have found our way out. Have you had a chance to read some of the other people's experiences? For me, to get off of alcohol, I got on l glutamine and kudzu which are supplements I can buy at health stores in United States and got a doctor to prescribe klonopin short term for withdrawal symptoms. Others use other methods: willpower, baclofen, Antabuse, topamax, naltrexone, campral.... But it is possible!!!!! I didn't think it was possible 2 months ago and today, I feel in so much control and so free from this that I feel like I found a brand new life. You can do it too! You just have to research and try different ways ad find the way that will work for you!!! Just don't stop trying!

Good luck!

**NewOne** · December 4, 2012, 08:52 PM

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The post that turned it all around for me was...."goodle AVRT bullets". So I did.

I don't know who it was or where on this forum I read it. My brain was a bit fried at that time, but if I recall properly, that's all the post said.

**kuya** · December 4, 2012, 10:00 PM

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Problem, you are young enough to turn this around but also so young that you think you are ONLY the drinking.

I also recommend you look at the AVRT site, get so supplements to help you and realise that once you are even a week sober you will feel so much better.

It is NOT a lifetime of wanting a drink IF you get your head straight about not wanting to drink poison.
Alcohol is a poison, for you , me and everybody. The fact that lots of people drink it does not change it.

Also get Joan Larsen's book ' seven weeks to sobriety' it will help you understand what sort of drinker you are and how to treat your specific needs.

You also sound very angry with the world and I wonder what happened and why that should be?
Best of luck and :welcome: to MWO

**Catbuddy** · December 5, 2012, 01:06 AM

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Hey Problem,

On this site, you are not alone, as a drinker or someone in despair. It does take a plan, and effort, and there are hard times. But where you are? Maybe drinking is actually the thing that is making it so hard.

SO, on the other side of drinking, life is easier, more fulfilling, and you don't NEED it anymore. Whether you decide to have it anyway, that's up to you. But you can get beyond the need.

:welcome:

Catbuddy

**ProblemDrinker** · December 5, 2012, 07:18 AM

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paulywogg;1421932 wrote: hi problemdrinker,its a mess isnt it? iwas in the same boat as you for 7 years,drinking in the morning so i wouldnt shake so i could get ready for work,i drank at work,i drank driving home from work,came home and drank the nite away.Same cycle over and over,finding this site and taking the kudzu,tapering off the alcohol slowly to avoid withdrawals,eventually i was able to get stretches at least without booze.Im still not 100% yet,however i see a lite at the end of the tunnel,i know you may feel helpless right now,but you can take some baby steps to quit and make your life better for you and your girl.Welcome and keep posting,and know your not alone at all.

Thanks, paulywogg. I do agree I should probably try NOT quitting cold turkey..it would destroy me. I did use to ease off my hangover with 1-2 beers and feeling OK that day, and the next one I was fine, as if I haven't been drinking at all. However, sometimes the hangover lasts for 2-3 days... Thank you for welcoming me and I wish you the best luck as well.

Alcoholic;1421936 wrote: Hi, problem drinker:

You will be surprised that many people will read and comment on your post. We all will want to help you. We all have our stories and have been there and have found our way out. Have you had a chance to read some of the other people's experiences? For me, to get off of alcohol, I got on l glutamine and kudzu which are supplements I can buy at health stores in United States and got a doctor to prescribe klonopin short term for withdrawal symptoms. Others use other methods: willpower, baclofen, Antabuse, topamax, naltrexone, campral.... But it is possible!!!!! I didn't think it was possible 2 months ago and today, I feel in so much control and so free from this that I feel like I found a brand new life. You can do it too! You just have to research and try different ways ad find the way that will work for you!!! Just don't stop trying!

Good luck!

Thanks for that. It really does matter to me. Speaking of medicaments - I don't even take aspirin...I mean... taking these pills that you recommended will put me in a position of being helpless, which is the least I was to feel on my concious. I somehow need to do it without the supplements. I tried to see a doctor. She just took ~40$ and told me I must go on abstinence. Prescribed me with liver regenerating pills and vitams. But all I wanted was to talk about it. Realize what I am doing. I will keep your recommendation on record in case I will really need the supplements.
Do they really work ? What's the feel?

NewOne;1421943 wrote: The post that turned it all around for me was...."goodle AVRT bullets". So I did.

I don't know who it was or where on this forum I read it. My brain was a bit fried at that time, but if I recall properly, that's all the post said.

Thanks for the reply. Is that the one - htt p://rational.org/index.php?id=35 (doesn't let me post a link, I put a gap between "htt p") ?

kuya;1421961 wrote: Problem, you are young enough to turn this around but also so young that you think you are ONLY the drinking.

I also recommend you look at the AVRT site, get so supplements to help you and realise that once you are even a week sober you will feel so much better.

It is NOT a lifetime of wanting a drink IF you get your head straight about not wanting to drink poison.
Alcohol is a poison, for you , me and everybody. The fact that lots of people drink it does not change it.

Also get Joan Larsen's book ' seven weeks to sobriety' it will help you understand what sort of drinker you are and how to treat your specific needs.

You also sound very angry with the world and I wonder what happened and why that should be?
Best of luck and :welcome: to MWO

Answering your question why a I so angry, I can only say that I am angry at myself. Also, nevertheless, I do can feel that alcohol comsumption brings rage...yeah, it really does. Especially the next morning. I made terrible conversations with close friends under influence. A friend calls me up in the morning and I go "Why the fuck do you keep calling me in the morning every day? I am sleeping, you idiot, call me later". That happened at 2 p.m. Not once.
Alcohol is a depressant, I guess it's because of that I tend to be so frustrated on anyone for no reason.

I drank yesterday (when I wrote this topic), today I went to a shop for some cigarettes, unpacked them while going to my car and threw the package away, when a man saw that and said "really nice littering, eh?". I told him to go fuck himself and carried on walking to the car. He mumbled something, I heard it and turned around. I swear I would've knocked him down if he came up to me. This never happens when I'm not hungover or drunk. So I guess it's true. I'm a raging alcoholic.

Catbuddy;1422014 wrote: Hey Problem,

On this site, you are not alone, as a drinker or someone in despair. It does take a plan, and effort, and there are hard times. But where you are? Maybe drinking is actually the thing that is making it so hard.

SO, on the other side of drinking, life is easier, more fulfilling, and you don't NEED it anymore. Whether you decide to have it anyway, that's up to you. But you can get beyond the need.

:welcome:

Catbuddy

Hi, Catbuddy. Yes! You're absolutely right. The drinking IS the thing that is making it so hard. Making everything hard to keep up to. Thanks for the welcome. I will try to keep it clean.

**Alcoholic** · December 5, 2012, 08:44 AM

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Problem: I only take supplements now and they really help me. They have helped a lot of other people here too. Read a little about l- glutamine and kudzu if you are interested or just keep in mind for future reference.

**NewOne** · December 5, 2012, 09:59 AM

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Your AV (the beast) has access to your emotions, your intelligence, your physicality...your weaknesses and your strengths.

It will use all of these aspects against you in it's quest to remain in control.

It has no mercy. no morals, no discretion. It is beyond ruthless.

The good news is...once you learn to recognize it, YOU can start calling the shots in your life. The REAL you. And you know who that person is.

RECOGNITION is the key.

Onward soldier!

**hart** · December 5, 2012, 01:10 PM

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Yes alcohol is part of the problem-but don't kid yourself. There is a reason you want to drink to escape-if there wasn't you wouldn't quit drinking. Most of us can't stop drinking without examining what it is we want to escape. What is behind the anger? You say you don't want to take rx. Well you just might have a chemical imbalance wherein you have to take an anti-depressant. That is no different than an epileptic that needs a drug not to seize. Something might be causing your anger chemically and it might be a medication you need to cause you to function normally-your $40 doctor might dismiss you too easily. My two cents. Signed a bipolar one.

**ProblemDrinker** · December 5, 2012, 06:35 PM

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NewOne;1422178 wrote: Your AV (the beast) has access to your emotions, your intelligence, your physicality...your weaknesses and your strengths.

It will use all of these aspects against you in it's quest to remain in control.

It has no mercy. no morals, no discretion. It is beyond ruthless.

The good news is...once you learn to recognize it, YOU can start calling the shots in your life. The REAL you. And you know who that person is.

RECOGNITION is the key.

Onward soldier!

This was powerful. Thank you. I can see clearly now. You told the exact truth.

To all others - thank you again for your replies, I will update this post with my progress.

God bless us all, if he is.

**damo180** · December 6, 2012, 03:49 PM

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All I can do pal is wish you the best.
But your life will improve 1000% if you can quit.
It WILL be very difficult at the start.
But you CAN do it.
You are young enough to turn your life.
Get some help, maybe tell your girlfriend that you really want to try quit.

Hope everything works out for you , you seem like a really decent fella, but alcohol has you, and it WILL get worse unless you quit.
Believe me , there is more to life than booze.
Get fit, take advantage of being sober by living healthy.
It will improve your mood.

All the best

**Adoree** · December 6, 2012, 04:13 PM

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I Agree Hart

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